Originally posted by Sozo
Originally posted by Hilston
If you have been granted unconditional absolution of all crimes, can you still (be) a prisoner of the state? The answer is no, even if you choose to stay in your cell.
Jim... I'm beginning to think, you don't.
Let's try an illustration that you might understand...
If I put a meal on a plate and serve it to you, then you have been provided everything you need to solve your problem of hunger. If you do not eat it, then you will remain hungry.
You don't like the fact that God requires a response to His provision. That's just too damn bad, for you! It is the gospel! Calvinism (which you teach) is another gospel.
God has sent His Son to die for the sins of the whole world. (Like it or not). All men have been offered the free gift, and it is not an effort, nor a co-redemtive work to accept a gift. Your comments are equal to foolish questions like: When a light is turned on, where does the darkness go?
If you choose to stay in your cell, are you guilty of any of the crimes that put you there in the first place? The answer is no.
Does not matter, you are still in prison.
If pardon is truly and effectually provided, it doesn't matter if the person accepts it or not. He is still pardoned. He is no longer a prisoner.
No, he is not a prisoner, but he is still in prison until he leaves.
Has the demands of justice been satisfied by Christ's death or not? If so, then there is no guilt, and by your logic, it guiltless people suffer in hell simply for not having life.
Are you now rejecting the propitiation? Being free from guilt, forgiveness of sins, freedom from wrath, sin, law, and death are IN HIM.
You just don't get it. I have made it plain enough for a child to understand.
Salvation is IN HIM. YOU must be IN HIM to receive all that God has done. You must come out of the cell. You must eat your meal. You must deny yourself. You must repent of unbelief. You must accept the free gift of life. It is God's plan, not Jim Hilston's.
But the fruit is impotent and insufficient until it's eaten. By your own analogy, you relegate Christ's work to impotence and insufficiency.
On the contrary, it is YOU who makes Christ's sacrifice of no effect, by claiming that man does not have to do anything but be a part of your secret society of lottery winners.
What is the rationale behind God sending men to hell just because they don't have life? Is He somehow offended by the lack of life?
Yes, God is offended by death. Jesus came that we might have life, but you seem to think that the ministry of Jesus served no purpose at all.
