Christian Society

[Alexis Georg Hoen]

A Christian Society must be based on the essence of Jesus's teaching, namely the realization of our mutual identity (not equality) as children and representatives of God, a realization leading to mutual love and respect and recognition of our common human needs (not rights) of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. It must cause us to create civil rights that diminish and ameliorate the inequalities with which we are created.
Alexis Georg Hoen

 

[Tambora]

Huh?

 

[patrick jane]

A Christian Society must be based on the essence of Jesus's teaching, namely the realization of our mutual identity (not equality) as children and representatives of God, a realization leading to mutual love and respect and recognition of our common human needs (not rights) of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. It must cause us to create civil rights that diminish and ameliorate the inequalities with which we are created.
Alexis Georg Hoen

So, you're a liberal?

 

[JAGG]

It must cause us to create civil rights that diminish and ameliorate the inequalities with which we are created.
Alexis Georg Hoen

ameliorate
:to make (something, such as a problem) better, less painful, etc.
M. Webster

Forbes Magazine recently announced that Rush Limbaugh earned $79 million dollars last year. In fact, the July 2016 edition of Forbes published the annual incomes of America's richest 100 celebrities, and they made millions piled on top of millions of dollars. Rush was merely number 10 in the list of 100. Howard Stern made $85 million. Taylor Swift made $175 million.

How can we diminish and ameliorate the "inequalities" of that kind of income inequality? Eat the rich with a 99% tax rate? Pass laws against excelling economically? I am sure you would not want to do such as that. So what do you have in mind?

Dr. Phil McGraw made $88 million. Ellen DeGeneres made $75 million. Madonna made $76.5 million.

 

[Alexis Georg Hoen]

Response to "so, you are al liberal

Response to "so, you are al liberal

If being a liberal means that people are not only equal in their rights, but must take care of each other to fulfill their innermost nature - yes.

 

[Alexis Georg Hoen]

No, we must not pass laws against excelling economically because they throttle progress. But, yes, higher taxes permit to support those who are less fortunate, less intelligent because they have the same wants and needs as we have. That means using taxes for public education, public transportation, universal health care etc.The Universal Declaration of Human Rights provides for the right to be helped by the state (Article 25) - actually a civil right - whereas our constitution does not. Yet, fortunately, we are moving in that direction. We have abundant proof that enforced absolute socialism does not work but some movement toward that goal cannot be avoided because we realize our identity with others.

 

[JAGG]

. . . people . . . must take care of each other . . .

That idea is most certainly based solidly in the Bible. There are literally hundreds of Biblical texts that compellingly teach that we humans are supposed to take care of each other. One example is the story of the Good Samaritan. Btw, Franklin Graham is the president of a large organization (Samaritan's Purse) based on the principle that we humans are supposed to take care of each other. Samaritan's Purse meets both the physical and spiritual needs of those who are in desperate need due to such as earthquakes, hurricanes, drought, and even tribal wars. It delivers millions of dollars in food, clothing, shelter, farming equipment, and clean bottled water, and all the name of the Lord Jesus. Along with all the material goods, Samaritan's Purse staff proclaims the gospel of the Lord Jesus to the recipients of the desperately-needed material goods.

"The name of the organization is based on the New Testament Parable of the Good Samaritan, in which Jesus uses a parable to teach people one form of the Golden Rule; "love your neighbor as yourself . . .

. . . Samaritan’s Purse works in more than 100 countries around the world . . .

. . . In the fiscal year ending December 2012, Samaritan’s Purse generated over $376 million. Of that amount, 89.3 percent goes directly to projects; 4.3 percent is used for administrative support; and 6.2 percent is spent on fundraising . . .

The "Consolidated Statement of Activities" section of the organization's 2014 accountant's report lists the total revenue as $520.4 million."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritan's_Purse

 

[JAGG]

No, we must not pass laws against excelling economically because they throttle progress.

I fully agree with that.

But, yes, higher taxes permit to support those who are less fortunate, less intelligent because they have the same wants and needs as we have. That means using taxes for public education, public transportation, universal health care etc.

I agree with the spirit of what you said, but we have to be on guard against liberalism's incessant desire to raise the tax rate because ever increasing tax rates is a job killer and economic growth killer. Of course you already know that as stated in your first sentence up there.

We have abundant proof that enforced absolute socialism does not work but some movement toward that goal cannot be avoided because we realize our identity with others.

We don't want any kind of movement toward the goal of "enforced absolute socialism." There are other and better ways for humans to help each other, for example see my post up there on Samaritans Purse and its way over $500 million dollar 2014 annual revenue - - - much higher for 2016 I am sure.

The generosity of the American people is staggering when you realize how much money and time they give to helping humanity - - - start with the Salvation Army and then list every other organization in America that gives its money and volunteer man-hours to help hurting humanity, and you have a huge list.

 

[JAGG]

America The Generous.

America The Generous.

"The critics of the American capitalist system are many, but when disaster strikes, the world still turns to America. One thinks most recently of Japan and Haiti. Not only did the United States send hundreds of millions of dollars in aid, but it also sent troops, food, water and medical supplies. We remember the moving picture of "Thank you USA" etched in the mud next to a rescue helicopter landing circle in Japan . . .

. . . In surveys taken around the world, the United States is most popular in Africa, a continent we've given billions of dollars to help fight AIDS, starvation and other diseases. But we also donate more than money (and the U.S. foreign aid budget is the topic of much debate, and rightfully so). Generations of Americans have sacrificed their lives to fight and die for freedom around the world."
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/15/opinion/bennett-generosity/index.html

Heart-warming article up there, makes one glad to be an American.

"Now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."
I Cor. 13:13

 

[CherubRam]

No, we must not pass laws against excelling economically because they throttle progress. But, yes, higher taxes permit to support those who are less fortunate, less intelligent because they have the same wants and needs as we have. That means using taxes for public education, public transportation, universal health care etc.The Universal Declaration of Human Rights provides for the right to be helped by the state (Article 25) - actually a civil right - whereas our constitution does not. Yet, fortunately, we are moving in that direction. We have abundant proof that enforced absolute socialism does not work but some movement toward that goal cannot be avoided because we realize our identity with others.

The problem with raising taxes on the rich is that they pass it on to the poor.