Can a nation be born in one day? Can a dead language come back to life?

[beameup]

“Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things?
Can a land be born in one day?
Can a nation be brought forth all at once?
As soon as Zion travailed, she also brought forth her sons. -
Isaiah 66:8 NASB
A: Israel 1948

For then will I return to the people
a pure language, that they may all call upon
The Name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent. -
Zephaniah 3:9 KJV
A: Hebrew

 

[daqq]

“Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things?
Can a land be born in one day?
Can a nation be brought forth all at once?
As soon as Zion travailed, she also brought forth her sons. -
Isaiah 66:8 NASB
A: Israel 1948

Wrong answer yet again. The correct answer is the Great Day of Golgotha. You cannot see it because you never actually heard the great invocation into the kingdom of Elohim from the Great Day in which it was given through the Master Yeshua. Your dispensational war footing comes from your ridiculous "Pauline only" theology which tells you that the Testimony of Yeshua is spoken only to "the Jews" and not applicable to yourself. And not only that but you deny the work of Messiah at Golgotha and essentially proclaim that because he was not able to finish everything written of him during his ministry and at Golgotha he must now return again in bodily form sometime in the future to finish the job. You just said to me in another thread that your "ministry is not to the handicapped", and to that I say, thank God!, because your teachings are antichrist. :crackup:

 

[chair]

It's like being at a dinner party, where everyone is discussing you- but in some secret code you don't really understand.

 

[beameup]

It's like being at a dinner party, where everyone is discussing you- but in some secret code you don't really understand.

daqq suffers from a malady akin to Tourette Syndrome.
Perhaps it is associated with his self-described "death experience".

 

[daqq]

It's like being at a dinner party, where everyone is discussing you- but in some secret code you don't really understand.

As for my mother covenant, and my holy city, her warfare is over:

Yeshayahu-Isaiah 40:1-3
40:1 Comfort, comfort My people! says your Elohim.
40:2 Speak comfortably to Yerushalaim, and call out to her that her warfare is accomplished, for her iniquity is reconciled: for she has received double at the hand of YHWH for all her sins.
40:3 Kol Kore ba-midbar, [Voice of a Cryer in the desert] Prepare yourselves the way of YHWH, make straight in the desert a highway for our Elohim. [Mattityahu 3:3]

Mattityahu 3:1-3
1 In those days came Yohanan the Immerser preaching in the desert of Yhudah:
2 and saying, Repent yourselves [teshuvah-return and change of heart] for the kingdom of the heavens is at hand!
3 For this is he of whom it was spoken through haNavi Yeshayahu, saying, Voice of a Cryer in the desert, [Kol Kore ba-midbar] Prepare yourselves the way of YHWH, make his paths straight. [Yeshayahu 40:3]

 

[Interplanner]

“Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things?
Can a land be born in one day?
Can a nation be brought forth all at once?
As soon as Zion travailed, she also brought forth her sons. -
Isaiah 66:8 NASB
A: Israel 1948

For then will I return to the people
a pure language, that they may all call upon
The Name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent. -
Zephaniah 3:9 KJV
A: Hebrew

ON the 2nd, are we going to Islamize things and say that unless we use Hebrew we aren't really in contact with God? Hebrew was being used by the Reformers in the 1500s. That was during the "dark" ages when such things like Latin and Greek were also supposed to be dead. Sorry, but nothing here stands up.

On the first, the OT prophets must be interpreted by the NT: it was referring to the believers, the "nation" that God created in the Gospel as Mt 21 says. Is there something spiritual that 1948 adds to Pentecost that you know about that no one else does? Why can a socialist state, fought for by very angry violent people, qualify for as the sons of God, as Christian believers refer to?

The answer: the myth of 2P2P.

 

[beameup]

ON the 2nd, are we going to Islamize things and say that unless we use Hebrew we aren't really in contact with God? Hebrew was being used by the Reformers in the 1500s. That was during the "dark" ages when such things like Latin and Greek were also supposed to be dead. Sorry, but nothing here stands up.

On the first, the OT prophets must be interpreted by the NT: it was referring to the believers, the "nation" that God created in the Gospel as Mt 21 says. Is there something spiritual that 1948 adds to Pentecost that you know about that no one else does? Why can a socialist state, fought for by very angry violent people, qualify for as the sons of God, as Christian believers refer to?

The answer: the myth of 2P2P.

I don't endorse Replacement Theology or Origen's "spiritualizing" of Scripture.
I trust in the Holy Spirit to bring his specific prophecies to pass, just as He wrote.

Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves [Gentile nations], and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. - Ezekiel 37:11-12

 

[TweetyBird]

I trust in the Holy Spirit to bring his specific prophecies to pass, just as He wrote.

Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves [Gentile nations], and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. - Ezekiel 37:11-12

What if that land is not an earthly land? Look at Heb 11.

Heb 11
8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10 for he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God ...... 13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

You are aware that the prophecy of Israel returning to the land was fulfilled in the OT?

 

[Interplanner]

I don't endorse Replacement Theology or Origen's "spiritualizing" of Scripture.
I trust in the Holy Spirit to bring his specific prophecies to pass, just as He wrote.

He did that and brought them back from captivity so that they would be missionaries of the Gospel to the nations.

Be careful of saying "Just as He wrote" without realizing how much you might have loaded it with.

The real RT problem is what Judaism did reflected in Gal 3:17. It voided and switched Promise and Law. Paul straightened out in that chapter.

 

[Interplanner]

What if that land is not an earthly land? Look at Heb 11.

Heb 11
8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10 for he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God ...... 13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

You are aware that the prophecy of Israel returning to the land was fulfilled in the OT?

Good homework.

 

[beameup]

And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. - Exodus 19:6

I haven't noticed this.

 

[Interplanner]

And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. - Exodus 19:6

I haven't noticed this.

Then you need to get familiar with the NT, because Peter used this passage about the believers. There are 2500 uses of the OT by the NT; time to get started on learning the patterns and themes of this, because it is what Christ taught during those days between the Res and Pentecost, Lk 24.