Separating chaff from wheat makes sense to me; but I've never been able to get anyone to answer a straight forward question which is; how is it possible to fault chaff for being chaff?
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Free will?
Yes, I agree with ok doser, there is the aspect of free will. Psalm 1 introduces the Psalms as a whole, and the theme of the psalms is how to develop to be like Christ and David, the man after God's own heart. Psalm 1 does give us the divergent paths of the righteous and the wicked, and the wicked are described as chaff. There appears to be an element of possible choice, a choice of what environment we become involved with, and we will be blessed if we carefully consider this Psalm, and its teaching that is, if we meditate upon the teaching of the word of God and develop the fruits of the Spirit.Separating chaff from wheat makes sense to me; but I've never been able to get anyone to answer a straight forward question which is; how is it possible to fault chaff for being chaff?
No, I don't mean to ask, do we have the choice to blame chaff for being chaff; I'm asking, how can chaff be blamed for being chaff? How is it the chaff's fault for being chaff?
WS, these are some pretty dumb questions.No, I don't mean to ask, do we have the choice to blame chaff for being chaff; I'm asking, how can chaff be blamed for being chaff? How is it the chaff's fault for being chaff?
WS, these are some pretty dumb questions.
In the wheat/chaff analogy, the chaff are the bad people, the unbelieving people. Those people are to blame for their own badness and their own unbelief.
Right, you guys get it
The chaff has chosen to be chaff
Greetings Winston,Yes, I agree with ok doser, there is the aspect of free will. Psalm 1 introduces the Psalms as a whole, and the theme of the psalms is how to develop to be like Christ and David, the man after God's own heart. Psalm 1 does give us the divergent paths of the righteous and the wicked, and the wicked are described as chaff. There appears to be an element of possible choice, a choice of what environment we become involved with, and we will be blessed if we carefully consider this Psalm, and its teaching that is, if we meditate upon the teaching of the word of God and develop the fruits of the Spirit.
Kind regards
Trevor
In the ANALOGY both wheat and chaff chose to be wheat and chaff.I can see this question is trickier than I first realized. Or the wrong people are answering...
I guess if you haven't thought about it... Let me try it like this: Does wheat ever choose to be chaff?
I think your analogy falls apart if you try to take it too far...Why would chaff need to choose to be chaff when it is already chaff?
He seems to be taking the wooden literal idea that they are what they are as opposed to the actual meaning of the passage.I think your analogy falls apart if you try to take it too far...
Chaff is a metaphor for the unrighteous as the grain is a metaphor for the righteous.I'm asking, how can chaff be blamed for being chaff? How is it the chaff's fault for being chaff?
Total Depravity is a false doctrine.Why would chaff need to choose to be chaff when it is already chaff?
Ok, what are we before we choose? Are we good and not foolish? Imagine a time line; imagine someone moving along it. Are they good people for a while and then at some point on the line become wicked?
Isaiah 7:16 16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings. |
Chaff is a metaphor for the unrighteous as the grain is a metaphor for the righteous.
Though the chaff has no choice in becoming chaff, mankind does have the free-will choice of being righteous or being unrighteous.
Therefore, we can blame the unrighteous for choosing unrighteousness over righteousness.
The Bible mentions that there is a time when human children are too young to know to choose good and refuse evil.
Isaiah 7:16
16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
In the ANALOGY both wheat and chaff chose to be wheat and chaff.
So you're still asking silly questions.
:juggle:So was there ever a time when the unrighteous were righteous?