Bigger Problems for Creepy Uncle Joe Biden

Jerry Shugart

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Joe Biden appears to have made a major tactical error last year when he bragged to an audience of foreign policy experts how he threatened to hurl Ukraine into bankruptcy if their top prosecutor, General Viktor Shokin, wasn't immediately fired, according to The Hill's John Solomon.

The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member.

U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.​

Read how Creepy Joe bragged about how he got Shokin fired here:

Creepy Joe has now been replaced as the Democrats favorite to be their nominee for President in 2020 by a full fledged SOCIALIST!!!

The Democrat party is bankrupt and doesn't have any chance to defeat Trump in 2020!
 
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I don’t think the Democrats will beat Trump in 2020, but what’s scary is socialism is swiftly becoming/has become their mantra. Some young Bernie will eventually win, and then we will experience what Venezuela is now experiencing. God help not only us, but the whole world!


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jjohnson7773 said:
I don’t think the Democrats will beat Trump in 2020, but what’s scary is socialism is swiftly becoming/has become their mantra. Some young Bernie will eventually win, and then we will experience what Venezuela is now experiencing. God help not only us, but the whole world!


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You are correct.
 
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JJohnson, the Democrats are not "socialist " and you don't even know what socialism is . The mess in Venezuela is due to totalitarian dictators who messed up the entire country economically ,not socialism, whatever that is .
Joe Biden, whatever his foibles, is an infinitely better human being than our lecher-in-chief Trump. Why is the right so up in arms about behavior by Biden which hasn't even been confirmed as true yet ? Even if Biden did some strange this with a few women, this is absolutely nothing compared to Trump's sickening record as a sexual predator . The right is rushing to judgment .
Hypocritical double standard .
Trump is going to reduce America to social and economic chaos which will make Venezuela look like a picnic - through CAPITALISM .
 
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The Horn said:
Trump is going to reduce America to social and economic chaos which will make Venezuela look like a picnic - through CAPITALISM .
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It certainly hasn't started yet. In fact, America is in better shape now than when he took office.

All you are doing ids trying to change the subject of this thread because you have nothing to say which defends Creepy Joe's actions which he took to make sure his son was not prosecuted for his illegal activity.

But that is just what I expect for those who support the party of lawlessness, the Democrat Party.
 
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We in America are already throttled by socialist policies. If the free market were truly free, medical care would be at least half what it is now, there would be no ethanol in our gas, no surcharges on our phone bills, etc & etc. The level of prosperity would be phenomenal.


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The Horn said:
JJohnson, the Democrats are not "socialist ".
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Well hello there. Welcome to the planet earth. On our planet, Democrats ARE socialists, and have said so outright with no apology. Their policies are certainly socialist.

What planet are YOU from?
 
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JJohmson, there is no such thing as "the free market ". It's a libertarian myth . The free market sounds like a terrific idea in theory , but it doesn't exist and never will .
Corporate greed prevents any possibility of a free market . There has to be government control over the market or else there would be total chaos and this country would collapse along with the economy .
 
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JJohmson, there is no such thing as "the free market ". It's a libertarian myth . The free market sounds like a terrific idea in theory , but it doesn't exist and never will .
Corporate greed prevents any possibility of a free market . There has to be government control over the market or else there would be total chaos and this country would collapse along with the economy .
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So, in your fantasy world, it is required to give the most corrupt people total control? :dizzy:
 
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"the market" ???

which market?

there are many many markets
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His idea that "the free market" is a myth is, itself, a myth.

"The free market" is a perfectly valid IDEA that has been written about at length by some great minds, like Hayek, von Mises and Rothbard.

That he considers it a "myth" shows how shallow his thinking is.
 
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ok doser said:
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wait, you don't know what socialism is, but you think jj doesn't either? :freak:


you're weird
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Yeah, another spreader of disinformation specializing in obfuscation. It's the usual/constantly repeated mantra from the left: you guys don't understand socialism. You're just not smart enough. And then the next refrain is when a failing socialist country is pointed it's not because socialism failed, but because it just wasn't done right. Some one screwed it all up because socialism just can't fail.

It's funny how the socialists blame the one way of doing business that has raised everyone's level of wealth. Until free market's came along all that existed were aristocrats and serfs.... The very rich and the very poor. Also, when free markets came along so did political freedom. Those are the facts of history. Even Karl Marx knew that much, even though he didn't seem to understand the connection between them.
 
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Right Divider said:
His idea that "the free market" is a myth is, itself, a myth.

"The free market" is a perfectly valid IDEA that has been written about at length by some great minds, like Hayek, von Mises and Rothbard.

That he considers it a "myth" shows how shallow his thinking is.
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I don't think I'd rate the idea that free markets have never existed as high as a myth. I'd say it's more like a socialist pipe dream. The problem is our educational system has been shoving this pipe dream down the throats of all their students now at least since the 1930s for that is when they took control of the system through the teacher's unions. They got control of the media about that time too.
 
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ok doser said:
it's always difficult to guess at what folks like him are talking about - wish he'd come back and actually engage in a dialogue
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That's pretty much an impossibility. Guys like him weren't educated, they were indoctrinated. That means that anything that contradicts their training causes them to pretty much lose it. They have never questioned what their college/university profs told them. They swallowed it hook, line, and sinker and when it gets that deep pulling out the hook kills them so they aren't about to risk it.
 
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