$7.9 Trillion
- Thread starter drbrumley
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Other than Bill Clinton, has any recent president actually reduced the debt?
Newt Gingrich, not Bill the Rapist Clinton reduced discretionary spending, which is not the cause of the debt. Mandatory spending is. Social Security and Medicare are % of the budget. Don't let facts get in the way of your communism.
Same old TOL. Bastion of devil worship and feminism.
Same old TOL. Bastion of devil worship and feminism.
Kit the Coyote
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Clinton didn't actually reduce the debt but he was heading in that direction with the Republican Congress' help. Of the rest, Obama was the only other one I think was moving the deficit in the right direction.
I've generally found that both parties only care about the debt/deficit when the other party is in power. The Trump Administration is proving no different in that regard. Clinton may be an example that divided government is best under the two-party system.
Nicky, nice to see you again. good to know you have not changed.
Devil worship AND feminism. Ah, would that were true. Would be much more interesting
Nope. Newt decided he'd shut the government down to make Clinton approve of the republican budget that would have ballooned the debt. Instead, Clinton held out, and forced Newt to accept his budget. And that actually paid down a little of the debt. Would you like me to show you?
You haven't been posting here as much, lately, though.
Well, let's take a look...
Clinton actually did pay down the debt a bit. As you might know, the republicans shut down the government, rather than give him the budget he wanted. Ultimately Gingrich let it be known that he did it mainly out of pique at being given an inferior seat on Air Force One. And according to republican whip Dick Armey:
Yet despite such successes, we didn't learn the right political lessons. A few months before the victory on welfare, we lost the battle over the federal government shutdown of 1995, when we were outmaneuvered by Clinton, a masterful political operator. After that fight, too many Republicans apparently concluded that America wanted bigger government. This misreading was the first step on the road away from the Reagan legacy.
We emerged as a wounded party; we stopped trusting the public; and we internalized the wrong lesson
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/27/AR2006102701482.html
They still don't trust us. Hence Gerrymandering and even outright voter fraud.
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You assume presidents have that much legislative power?
Kit the Coyote
New member
Well, let's take a look...
Clinton actually did pay down the debt a bit. As you might know, the republicans shut down the government, rather than give him the budget he wanted. Ultimately Gingrich let it be known that he did it mainly out of pique at being given an inferior seat on Air Force One. And according to republican whip Dick Armey:
Well, I stand corrected then, I thought his surpluses were projected but not yet obtained.
Clinton did. As the republicans admitted, he played them pretty well. And out of his legislative victories, we actually paid down the debt a bit.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
that sounds awesome!
I like to read that!
got a link to where those republicans admitted that Clinton "played them pretty well"?
'cause when i do a google search, i get bupkis
Yet despite such successes, we didn't learn the right political lessons. A few months before the victory on welfare, we lost the battle over the federal government shutdown of 1995, when we were outmaneuvered by Clinton, a masterful political operator.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/27/AR2006102701482.html
A republican house leader.
So he used somewhat stronger language to describe how easily Clinton handled them. You're not good enough with language to be an effective pettifogger.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
caught telling lies, an enraged barbie goes personal:
:chuckle:
:chuckle:
Aw, he's mad again... don't get upset; get smart. Next time, be more careful.