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Not so fast. It is still standing after 2000 years. Show me anything that has lasted that long.

Here we have Irenaeus in the second century talking about ancient copies of the Apocalypse. We also have Victorinus and Eusebius not aware of the seven churches of the Apocalypse in the 3rd and 4th centuries. How would you explain that?

Irenaeus ancient copies Eusebius Victorinus From Church History by Eusebius, Book 5 Chapter 8 has this about Irenaeus born 130 AD: In the fifth book he speaks as follows concerning the Apocalypse of John, and the number of the name of Antichrist: "As these things are so, and this number is...

Yours are really easy to miss.

You definitely have to include John Paul the Great. He gave us the Catechism of the Catholic Church which I didn't think was necessary until Francis came along.

Good luck with that. Don't know how you can call them Catholic.

That would put him in the Marxist camp, anti religion, and would be the enemy of both Islam, anti Christ, and Christianity.

It's the shutdown stupid and the cost of healthcare is the reason. It's not a solution but they will just borrow more. Kick the can down the road. And the cost of living will continue to go up. The real solution is to just promise more free stuff and they will continue to buy it no matter how...

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But they need to be said again and again. Way too many don't seem to get it.

Also more taxes. I tried to show my wife that whatever she made was taxed at the highest bracket even though she was not making that much money.

I can only guess but I do remember a thread I started about common ground. I was trying to list the things that most of use would agree with. No one was interested and most didn't want to admit that they agreed on anything especially with a Catholic.

I agree with this but most of the guys went along with it. Two incomes with no kids was the new American dream. The only problem was no grandchildren. No one warned us about that.

It was 20 years ago but It was my first experience with any forum so I would remember. For you I was just another Catholic causing trouble. We did have a nice exchange but others would jump in and disrupt it.

Do you?

So you don't know what a Catholic believes.

I remember our interaction.

If you add social security to medicare, you get 50% of the budget or 36K per year per senior. I don't think that is reasonable or justified since we didn't raise enough kids to pay the bill.

Do you know what a Catholic believes?

No Kings Just keep the money coming 970 billion for interest on debt 965 billion for medicare 895 billion for defense 608 billion for medicaid Don't forget social security Don't shut it down We all need a little help Just borrow some more.