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The videos give us a good idea, but the point is the earth is stationary and flat with a close sun and moon circling it or it's not. --Dave

I have presented, and will continue to present, all the evidence for a flat stationary earth. Which you have not answered. I will go into scripture and see all the evidence for the same. Let's see where your faith stands. --Dave

Wow...what a great response! But in a debate we try to make meaningful arguments and counter arguments or present videos that do the same. --Dave

I will reply to your post twice. First, you missed this from one of my previous posts. Your faith in our cosmology forefathers is not exactly Christian. "According to most scholars, Newton was Arian, not holding to Trinitarianism. 'In Newton's eyes, worshipping Christ as God was idolatry, to...

Good, then stay off my thread. I have better things to do than read your dumb comments. This thread has always been about visual/video evidence for a flat earth. --Dave

Yes, there are videos that present both positions. The experiments on table are only to make a point, not to be exact. If you can see an error in an experiment you think you have debunked the point it's making? We have to watch many videos and compare them and eventually one view will prevail...

Check out the videos, enjoy the music too. --Dave

I have never said how far the sun and moon are from the earth. They are very far away as per globe model or they are very close as per flat earth model. The video evidence says very close. --Dave

Sun in the clouds --Dave

THE most undeniable proof of the Flat Earth SUN! --Dave

Flat Earth Clouds Behind My Local Sun --Dave

Sun Sets IN the Clouds --Dave

Sun rise under the clouds --Dave

Look at those clouds behind the sun and moon. Kinda backs up what the rays of the sun tell us. --Dave

Two horizons In this picture you can see there is a reflection of the sun just below it that reveals a horizon line beyond the the first on. This is proof of an extended plane. There are other pictures that I have seen that show this. --Dave

The argument is, because the rays of the sun converge at a point the sun is close. That is not a circular argument, moron. The counter argument you're presenting is that the rays of the sun are parallel even though they don't look like they are. This argument denies the visual empirical...

Clouds behind the sun and moon How do clouds get behind the sun and moon? Clouds behind the sun and moon tell us they are close and much smaller than the earth. --Dave

I have read and addressed his arguments, which is not hard as per my last post to him. Most of his arguments are simply irrelevant. My arguments have not been refuted. The majority of people who have rejected Biblical Christianity is because of cosmology. --Dave

The sun is a singular light source, your parallel lines argument does not apply. The sun is much smaller than the earth and is close, not far away, if we go by the rays of the sun. --Dave

The rays from the sun are not parallel, if that's what you are trying to say. Two separate lights in the distance can appear to be one light just as two tracks can appear to become one track in the distance. Two suns side by side could also seem as one in the distance as well. But we have one...