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  1. Clete

    Mid-Acts Presentations

    I've heard all of those arguments many time before and they are compelling to a degree but not fully persuasive. At the end of the day, Paul himself was baptized in water as virtually the first act of his own faith and then proceeded to personally water baptize several people. And even if he...
  2. Clete

    Mid-Acts Presentations

    In reference to the bottom right square in that presentation, and specifically in regard to the issue of water baptism, it seems to me that if a person approaches Paul’s epistles without importing a large theological framework beforehand, it is very difficult to conclude that water baptism is...
  3. Clete

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    I no longer recall why you were being ignored so I've taken you off ignore. Try not to remind me what the problem was, okay? There are several major problems with the sentiments expressed above... First of all, it's a bit of a non sequitur. Proving dispensationalism would, by definition...
  4. Clete

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Cool. We agree. I suspect (but cannot prove) that the context of our heavenly existence will make marriage a non-sequitur. We won't miss it because it just won't make any sense.
  5. Clete

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    This does not seem to address the point. The passage I cited and which you have now repeated, explicitly states the problem that God was addressing when He decided to create Eve. Again, reproduction was certainly not an afterthought but it does seem to have been secondary to the companionship...
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    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    That's an interesting sentiment. You think marriage is necessarily sexual. It is certain a major part of marriage but it does not seem to be primary and less than necessary. God creating Eve was in resolution to the following problem... Genesis 2:18 And the Lord God said, “It is not good that...
  7. Clete

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Leader? By what standard? Who is it claiming that this person is a leader of Mid-Acts Dispensationalism? From what I can tell he was something of a pioneer in regard the modern American Mid-Acts movement but he was never any sort of leader in the sense of an organized movement. What he taught...
  8. Clete

    Who created you?

    What amazes me even more are the people who do know what the bible says and argue bad theology anyway. It's as if the bible doesn't matter, or that it is, at most, secondary. This comes in many forms. Augustine knew the bible well but held the teachings of Aristotle above all else. David...
  9. Clete

    JPPT1974's Weekend Thoughts 3/13-3/15/2026:

    Genesis 2:21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. 22 Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man. 23 And Adam said: “This is now bone of...
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    JPPT1974's Thurs Thoughts 3/12/2026:

    You understand that God does NOT make each person individually, right? I, for example, am not an introverted thinker because God decided in advance that I would be and set about specifically crafting my DNA in order to force that outcome. That isn't how it works. God made Adam from the dirt of...
  11. Clete

    JPPT1974's Wed Thoughts 3/11/2026:

    Who do you know who "...are being taught that by their own families to dislike people for the way they look."?
  12. Clete

    ECT The Beast Revelation

    The fundamental problem with identifying Mahmoud Abbas, Hamas, or any present political figure as the Beast of Revelation 13 is not that the news headlines do not line up cleanly. The problem is far deeper than that. It goes to the very premise of the theological position. It is a dispensational...
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    JPPT1974's Thurs Thoughts 3/5/2026

    I personally do not know one single person who doesn't except people on the basis of their color or gender. Such people exist, but they seem mostly to be angry white women who mostly hate white men, and rich black people who hate whites for creating the country that made them rich and that...
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    I'm Starting To Like This Trump Fellow

    You contradict yourself in such painfully obvious ways that it seems like your whole system would collapse into some sort of weird death spiral. What prevents you from grabbing the flat part of a hot skillet? What is it that keeps you from using your razor to brush your teeth? That's how...
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    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Name one mid-Acts dispensationalists that teaches we will marry in heaven.
  16. Clete

    I'm Starting To Like This Trump Fellow

    Hypocrite!
  17. Clete

    I'm Starting To Like This Trump Fellow

    Those same authors, and many more, went to painful deaths rather than recant their eyewitness testimony of the things they saw Jesus do and heard Him say. Doyle never claimed Sherlock Holmes to be a real person, but suppose he did. Do you suppose that Doyle would have died in defense of a claim...
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    I'm Starting To Like This Trump Fellow

    Liar. The thread is all still right here for the entire English speaking world to read. No it isn't! You were using a cliche that you thought was a fact until you encountered a Christian who educated you otherwise. You don't know what an ad hominem is either, do you? Is everything you...
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    I'm Starting To Like This Trump Fellow

    I don't even think Satan would tolerate that level of mental laziness. Satan is evil, not stupid.
  20. Clete

    I'm Starting To Like This Trump Fellow

    Notice how naturally this fool appeals to negative claims both as and immediately after stating so boldly that you cannot prove a negative, which is itself a negative claim, by the way. If it’s true, it can’t be proven. If it can be proven, it’s false. The statement cleanly defeats itself. How...
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