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  1. Clete

    Can God lie?

    Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't.
  2. Clete

    Can God lie?

    We are going in circles. Remember the point about when the bible tells us that God does not repent and I pointed out that He doesn't repent OF EVIL and how God cannot do evil in the sense that doing so would be against His will and no one has the ability to make God act against His own will and...
  3. Clete

    Can God lie?

    We don't believe that because that isn't "the only way such could be justified". Rather than saying that 'it is never a sin to lie to someone in authority over you' we say, in agreement with the biblical material, that 'it is NOT ALWAYS a sin to lie to someone in authority over you'. Pretty...
  4. Clete

    Can God lie?

    I can live with that.
  5. Clete

    Can God lie?

    Yes. Same question as before. What does it mean to be the "epitome of absoluteness"? The point being that I doubt that you can explain it because its basically a meaningless thing to say. It is, at best, a tautology, which is why I said that "God is what He is.". False. King Sol I Samuel 13:13...
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    Crisis On The Border, Thanks Joe! (you filthy rapist)

    You then live under a non-existent covenant that does not adhere to justice.
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    Crisis On The Border, Thanks Joe! (you filthy rapist)

    No one has suggested that you should. What we are talking about is what bible believing Christians as well as anyone else who is interested in seeing justice done should advocate that the laws SHOULD BE. It does and you will. I'm telling you that your knowledge of the scriptures is on level...
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    Crisis On The Border, Thanks Joe! (you filthy rapist)

    You win the prize for patience, JR! You've got me beat. That's for sure!
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    Crisis On The Border, Thanks Joe! (you filthy rapist)

    You hope that I'm right? There isn't any question at all that I'm right and you know it. As of right now, I no longer consider you to be a Christian. You're a left wing, religious hack that wouldn't know the living God if He showed up to slap your prideful face. Your economic worldview is...
  10. Clete

    Crisis On The Border, Thanks Joe! (you filthy rapist)

    You are truly and idiot. If that's how you do doctrine, it's no wonder that you're so upside down on practically everything. That isn't at all relevant. Far fewer than have died at the hands of criminals that should have been put to death. FAR FEWER! You are literally stupid. There isn't...
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    Crisis On The Border, Thanks Joe! (you filthy rapist)

    Exactly. As if justice has somehow changed since the time of Moses.
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    Crisis On The Border, Thanks Joe! (you filthy rapist)

    Is there ANYTHING that you believe that is biblical? I'm beginning to doubt it! Luke 23:40 But the other, answering, rebuked him, saying, “Do you not even fear God, seeing you are under the same condemnation? 41 And we indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has...
  13. Clete

    Can God lie?

    Wow! That's one I hadn't noticed before. That's a tough one to explain, or, at least, it isn't as intuitively understood as the other examples that have been shown. What do you suppose was going on there?
  14. Clete

    Can God lie?

    That is the best post I've read on TOL in years! COMPLETELY BRILLIANT!!!! 👏👏👏👏
  15. Clete

    Can God lie?

    How so? God is what He is. What does "the epitome of absoluteness" even mean? For that matter, what does it mean to say the God is all powerful, all knowing, all wise, and all present? Are you certain that those ideas are biblical? They sound Greek to me, as in Aristotelian. Biblically, we...
  16. Clete

    Can God lie?

    How so? How is Derf's line of reasoning wrong there? Is there any moral "credit" I receive for having not melted San Fransisco in a ball of nuclear fire? I have no ability to do such a thing, right? Not that I would do so, if I could, but what if I would but don't because I can't? Do I get...
  17. Clete

    Can God lie?

    "of evil" God is not a man, that He should repent.....OF EVIL! We have to remember that the bible was not written by a lawyer and that language isn't the rigid thing that some want to pretend it to be. You have to spend some effort to stay on the same page with the author of whatever it is...
  18. Clete

    Can God lie?

    I'm not talking about American jurist prudence. I'm talking about Exodus 20:16. Exodus 20:16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. I didn't say anything about battle. However, there's more than one kind of battle and we are all the time fighting against the enemies of...
  19. Clete

    Can God lie?

    There are, of course, times when telling anything other than the entire truth is an immoral lie, such as when one is giving testimony in court but the overall biblical teaching is that whether a lie is immoral or not has to do with the motive of the lie. It is not wrong, for example, to deceive...
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    Crisis On The Border, Thanks Joe! (you filthy rapist)

    :ROFLMAO: LOL!!!! :ROFLMAO: If brains were dynamite, you couldn't blow the fuzz off of a peach!' Best to stick to whatever echo chamber you count as a church.
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