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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    So because not many are even willing to engage or address you, concerning your flat earth theory, that makes me "rabid" for engaging you and trying to show you the truth? What your remarks reveal is that you would prefer that no one confront you or even engage you, and rather simply allow you to...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    @DFT_Dave Moreover now that the celestial sphere and horizontal coordinate system has been somewhat explained, and because we know it is nothing more than a tool, a "construct", a projection, (see also below in red), devised as a method for use in celestial navigation as explained in the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The ancient calendars were based on 360-day years, for instance the Sumerian/Babylonian, (and some speculate that it was merely because of the base 60 Sexagesimal system of Babylonian astronomy which they also speculate gave us the 360 degrees in a circle). However according to some, (for...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    That is the very reason why it proves we live on a spinning globe which is tilted on its axis: for indeed there is no real "arc of the sun path" but that is precisely what everyone sees on a daily basis. Those in the northern hemisphere see the path of the sun traversing in an arc across the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    That was an answer to one of your own objections from the several post of yours which I quoted. You posted an image file which is related to the celestial sphere, (which you probably found at Wikipedia? it is part of the horizontal coordinate system, here). However, even though your response...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Altitude & Azimuth: The Horizontal Coordinate System The horizontal coordinate system, also known as the Alt/Az system, is a method for describing the exact position of objects in the sky, such as planets, the Sun, or the Moon. This system is also used by timeanddate.com to describe the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    When you say, "Assuming the earth is flat in order to get the angle of the sun contradicts the earth is a globe" it is yourself doing the assuming. In the diagram below the plane or circle is only for calculation purposes and represents the 90 degree local latitude upon which the observer is...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    He has already been shown to be in error. The whole video about Gleason's map with its patent is no doubt nothing more than an attempt at damage control because someone already told Chippy the chipmunk that he is tinkering with a 2D azimuthal map of a 3D globe printed on a flat map. That means...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Yeah but I still said nothing about counter clockwise and last time you tried to pin a false accusation on me about saying I said the sun rises in the WEST in the southern hemisphere. Do you not remember that exchange? It is your own fault that you have made me overly cautious of you because of...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    As expected: a non-answer. Flat Earth: three locations, three people, three suns, (lol).
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Why should I be scared of anything you have presented when you have no answer for the very simple things that have already been presented herein? Your answer was to post the same guy, playing with an azimuthal map of the globe, and moving the tropic of capricorn out to the supposed ice wall...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Uh, sorry to burst your bubble but I never even clicked on your last talking chipmunk video.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Here is another very short video where using a sundial from the southern hemisphere the guy is again saying the same thing: on a flat earth you would essentially need another sun circling around the south for the sundial to work.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Is it my fault none of the flat-earthers are smart enough to think of what I have put forth here in this thread? That says much more about them and yourself than it does about me. It all boils down to lack of quality education and that also is not my fault or my problem. You are willing to...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The only option you have at this point, Dave, is to go the same path which 1-M-1-S has gone, which appears to be where you are headed, but I hope not: for that is to say that everyone living in the southern hemisphere does not actually see what they claim to see, and that all of the sun path...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I already watched enough of it to know that he is doing nothing more than giving you his interpretation of what he sees the sun doing in video clips. It does not prove anything: it is just his interpretation, his own "perspective".
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You seem to be misrepresenting my argument once again, it is a straw-man: I never said anything about the sun moving clockwise or counter clockwise. You even brought this up before and I plainly clarified my position that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west all over the world: and...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Pythagoras was also a Freemason? :doh: Anyone can play that game Patrick . . . Ahah! See? You yourself have become an Illuminati shill! :chuckle:
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    There really isn't any arc at all because what we all see is due to the fact that we are on a globe with a curved surface that is rotating and tilted on its axis of rotation. The sun is stationary relative to our position because we are also in an orbit around the sun. I know you already...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    For anyone who is truly interested in understanding what I am talking about; I just found a great app for this. Go to the following and click on the map anywhere you want to see the path of the sun. By clicking in the northern hemisphere, such as somewhere in the United States, then clicking...
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