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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Limited Atonement and Heb 2:8-10 Heb 2:8-10 8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    His Death alone Sanctified those He died for ! We know that Christ could not have died for all men without exception, because all for whom He died, gave Himself for, He once and for all sanctified them. Heb 10:9-10 9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    His Death was a Propitiation for the sins of those He died for ! Let me please elaborate a little more on God sending His Son to be the propitiation for our sins, John writing to Jewish Believers 1 jn 4:10, for He was the apostle to the circumcision, stressed earlier that in the letter 1 jn 2 2...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    What about 1 Jn 2:2 ? cont Now what about Rev 12:9,11 9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Whole World does not mean every person without...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    What about 1 Jn 2:2 ? 1 Jn 2:2 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. We know this scripture cannot mean every individual in the whole world has had their sins propitiated for by Christ, since the term itself means a...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Jn 10:15 Another scripture to think on as to the specific objects of Christ death is Jn 10:15 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. The word for is the greek word hyper and means: in behalf of, for the sake of 2) over, beyond, more...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    more on Eph 5:25-27 Lets look more closely at the Love of Christ in this passage, who is it that he Loves ? Is it not His Church, and is that not compared to that of a Husband and wife ? Now to say that Christ loved all people without exception the same and equally, His wife as well as those...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Rev 5:9-10 The effectiveness of Christ redemption ! Rev 5:9-10 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10And...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    His Death was a Propitiation for the sins of those He died for ! 1 Jn 4:10 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. What does this word mean here ? Propitiation, well it is the greek word hilasmos: an appeasing...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Glory in the Cross for redemption ! Gal 6:14 14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. The Cross of Christ did not merely make redemption possible for those He died in behalf of, but it...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    more on redemption ! These scriptures have been clear that Christ death was not merely to make redemption[salvation] possible, but to actually redeem them He died for, for God's purpose cannot fail as per Job 42:2 2 I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    To obtain Eternal Redemption for us ! Another stated purpose for the death of Christ is shown here Heb 9:12 12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained or procured eternal redemption for us. Note that its a...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    To reconcile us to God ! Another stated purpose for the death of Christ, God's Son is to reconcile us [ those He died for] to God ! Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. All...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    To remove God's Wrath ! Another stated Purpose for Christ Death was to remove or propitiate God's wrath of which it did Rom 3:25 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Stated Purposes of Christ death ! To sanctify and cleanse Eph 5:25-27 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave[died for] himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Stated Purposes of Christ death !2 Another stated Purpose for Christ death is given by Paul here Titus 2:14 14 Who gave himself [That means died] for us, that[in order that] he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. The Purpose of...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Stated Purposes of Christ death ! Here are Stated Purposes of what Christ death is to accomplish on its own merit, hence indicating that if these purposes are not applied to all without exception, then His death could not have been for all without exception, lest He failed of His death's...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    The extent of the atonement, for whom did Christ die ! There is simply no way one can preach or believe the Gospel of Christ 1 Cor 15:1- 4 without knowing with understanding who it was specifically Christ died for i.e His Church or His Sheep. This is not even a debatable issue, one either has...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Christ's purpose was to save Christ's purpose was to save and not to merely make salvation possible, those teaching such are preaching another gospel. This is important because it also speaks to the extent and purpose of Christ death, because He died for many as He came to save. This will also...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Did Christ die for the purpose of actually saving sinners, or did He only die to make sinners saveable? How one answers this question, and what they really believe about the Purpose of Christ death, determines if they believe a False Gospel or the True Gospel. What does the scripture state...
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