15 years of chrysostom 

Nick M

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Not so. Way too many DON'T GET IT, no "seem" about it. Today's Gospel reading: who goes away justified? The one who said, "Have mercy on me, A SINNER." You have to REPENT. You have to HUMBLE YOURSELF, otherwise, there's no doubt about it, you do NOT get it.
29 Then he called for a light, ran in, and fell down trembling before Paul and Silas. 30 And he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.

Luke recorded this event regarding Paul in Acts of the Apostles. Do you know the context? Acts 16.
 

chrysostom

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It's the shutdown stupid and the cost of healthcare is the reason. It's not a solution but they will just borrow more. Kick the can down the road. And the cost of living will continue to go up. The real solution is to just promise more free stuff and they will continue to buy it no matter how much it costs.
 

Idolater

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I will lob grenades at anyone who perverts the gospel.

29 Then he called for a light, ran in, and fell down trembling before Paul and Silas. 30 And he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.

Luke recorded this event regarding Paul in Acts of the Apostles. Do you know the context? Acts 16.

 

Idolater

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Christ is the one mediator. Christ has a priesthood, after the order of Melchizedek, just like the Scripture says. So your confessor is in persona Christi. You're not dealing with that man when you're celebrating the sacraments, you're dealing directly with Christ, after the order of Melchizedek, just like the Scripture says.
 

Ps82

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Well, someone needs to tell a lot of Catholics the truth about abortion and the Democratic Party.
I know Catholics that are very pro-life and know some who are very pro-abortion.

Personally, I think the pro-life Catholics have a better chance of Heaven than the others, but I always admit that Christ has been given all authority to judge, raise people from the dead and forgive sins.

Don't some Catholics accept Jesus as their mediator and are just Catholics because they were raised like that????
 

Nick M

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Is there a point to your post?
 

Clete

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Good luck with that. Don't know how you can call them Catholic.
You don't know how you can call the Pope Catholic?

I agree!

“All religions are a path to reach God. … they are like different languages that express the divine.” - Pope Francis Sept 2024​
"In addition, no one is exempted from striving to ensure respect for the dignity of every person, especially the most frail and vulnerable, from the unborn to the elderly, from the sick to the unemployed, citizens and immigrants alike.” - Pope Leo the IV June 2025​
(For "immigrants" read "illegal aliens".)​

There hasn't been a truly Catholic Pope in the traditional sense of the word since Benedict XVI and before him probably Pius the XII.

In fact, in the whole history of the Catholic church, only about 15-20 % of Popes consistently upheld historic Catholic doctrine, enforced discipline, resisted innovation, and preserved Catholic theology and practice without compromise.

That fact alone is sufficient to prove that these are mere men, that they have no special calling from God and that the position is just so much religious politics and has nothing to do with spirituality, truth or anything else biblical or righteous. Indeed, because of their position of power and influence, the Popes, as a group, are perhaps the worst Catholics in the history of Catholicism. The idea that this office carries divine sanction is falsified by its own record.
 
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Clete

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Yours are really easy to miss.
Well, then let me spell it out for you!

You say I have to include John Paul II. Fine. Let’s say we do.

The fact that you are scrounging for examples of good Popes across two thousand years proves the point I was making. If the papacy were truly a divinely established office and the Bishop of Rome truly had the authority of Christ on earth, then the consistent defense and preservation of Christian truth should be the norm, not the exception. Instead, we find a long line of political operators, heretics, compromisers, and otherwise worldly men, with only a handful who even tried to be what Catholicism claims the Pope is supposed to be.

This failure is not incidental nor is it the exception. It is systemic and totally the norm!! More than that, it is embedded in the very structure of Catholicism.

If the Catholic Church got the papacy wrong, then they got the most central claim of their ecclesiology wrong. That can't be treated like it's a side issue. It is the foundation on which their entire claim to authority rests. If that foundation crumbles, the whole system collapses with it.

No infallible magisterium, no divine succession, no protected authority and thereby no reason to treat Catholicism as uniquely legitimate in any way whatsoever. Catholicism become just another denomination. A denomination with an especially checkered past and a deeply compromised present.

So if the best defense of the papacy is to say, "Well, John Paul II gave us a decent Catechism," then you are admitting that the institution is human, fallible, and failed. Which is exactly the point.

You want to ask why liberals would want to call themselves Catholics because of what you see as moral compromise on political issues while you yourself are willing to accept the most egregious spiritual rebellion imaginable from within your own organization and continue to accept it as a divinely established office, the holder of which is the vicar of Christ!

Matthew 7:5
 
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