Charlie Kirk murdered by the left

Clete

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All right fine. A Leninist, also, would have the courage to assassinate Charlie Kirk. Or a Stalinist, or a Nazi. Like a legit Nazi. Someone like that also, would have the courage to assassinate Charlie Kirk.

"The Left"? Cowards. All of them. Cowards are exactly who would celebrate the assassination of their political opponents, but never actually do it themselves. That's the American (and Western) Left. Like, in a nutshell. Celebrate an assassination, but would never do it themselves. The Left.
I mean, could you please just go pick up at least one history book?! As if Lenin, Stalin and Hitler weren't "the left"! They are the very definition of what it means to be on the left!

The left has murdered somewhere between 100 - 250 million non-combatant people in just the last 100 years alone! MURDERED THEM! And done so for the exact same reason that idiot murdered Mr. Kirk - because they would not comply and/or to shut them up.

The left knows that their final argument is a gun and they are always able to find someone who isn't afraid to pull the trigger. Then all the cowardly leftist get behind the brute and make him their leader. This is Stalin (and Putin) in a nutshell.

And you're wrong anyway. The morons you're talking about admire Nazism, they are Nazis. They would not ever kill someone they believed was an actual Nazi (as this murder clearly did) nor would they have ever called Kirk a Fascist. The idiot who assassinated Kirk was told by the left that Kirk was a Fascist when he actually wasn't, but this idiot believed he was and so thought it was a good thing to kill him. Had Kirk been a real Fascist, as Fruentes is, no one would have hardly even known who Kirk was and people would have to be told "verbatim" how to search for his organization in a chat bot.
 
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It's not far right, I agree. Etymology of right vs. left clearly has conservatives on the right, and there are no fascists or nationalists or theocrats or Leninists, Stalinists or Nazis who are conservative, those are all radicals who want to make radical changes to society.
And they're all big government leftists!
 

Idolater

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This one's worth I think, quoting (for those who don't want to click through to Nee_Twitter (which I don't blame you)):

I didn't really know anything about Charlie Kirk

“ Until this week Kirk was a name and face I would occasionally see someone retweet on here and I would scroll past. I'd seen 2 or 3 short videos taken from Tiktok of him debating some low IQ college student but that was it.

“ I'm generally not interested in MAGA. I broadly believe in many of their goals, but find much of the rhetoric and policy implementation to be self defeating. To me Kirk was another Ben Shapiro or Tim Pool. All MAGA, all the time.

“ Immediately following his shooting my shock was political and societal. Another step down in what seems to be the never ending descent of American, and thus Western, society. Another sad day for free speech, no matter what you thought of the man's politics.

“ Then in the following hours my timeline was filled with videos of Kirk as a father, and my heart broke. I saw a man that was clearly devoted to his family and who loved them, and was loved in return, a great deal. I felt that love forever torn apart. I saw a daughter that would never run to her father and wrap her arms around him again.

“ The following day I saw more videos on here, and out of respect and curiosity I watched them all. Maybe they would make some sense of why someone felt the need to end this man's life and rob his children of a father. They did not.

“ Contrary to the tweets spreading through X as some kind of justification, what I found was a man who was deeply religious. I man that had a true belief system, and not one that he bent or shaped to fit to modern society. For example. he absolutely believed that homosexuality was a sin because that was what the bible told him, but he did not hate or think less of those people. Many of his close friends such as Peter Thiel and David Rubin were gay.

“ What I see when I watch the videos of Kirk is a fan of deep faith who put that faith above everything else. I see a man who treated everyone with compassion and civility. I see a man that was friendly and open and honest.

“ Honestly, I see a man that is braver and better than I. Not because he put himself in danger by wanted to talk to people, but by handing himself completely over to a belief system that I've never been able to get my head around. Like many of us, the idea is alien to me.

“ I can't say I don't watch his videos with a tinge of jealousy. What I see is a man who was completely happy. A man confident in his faith and who led his life accordingly. A man who not just believed, but acted on his belief.

“ At a time when so many people seem empty and depressed, it's hard not to be a little jealous of a person that seemed so fulfilled.

“ With this in mind, it's been incensing to see him slandered on here by people without any of the faith and none of the commitment. To see people take the man's faith and turn it into something twisted and hateful.

“ I knew nothing of the man in life, but I will try to listen to him more in death. ”
 
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Idolater

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And they're all big government leftists!

There's nothing un-conservative about big government, just so long as we do it conservatively. With caution and care, taking into account the mystical nature of man (he is not only explicable as the rational animal—he is at the same time, the inexplicable spiritual being as well), including all his God-given rights, which are all 'negative', in the sense that our God-given, absolute (absolutism is right and just when it comes to our universal human rights) moral rights, are all rights AGAINST particular things being done to us, like murder, kidnapping, rape, and perjury.

Charlie Kirk (his last name means 'church' I read somewhere, which is interesting) had his right against being murdered (and his right against having his non-criminal Free Speech abridged) violated. It wasn't his government who did it to him, it was some Groyper or Leftist (meaning "liberal" or Democrat or Marxist or other critical theorist, feminist for example). Both those parties advocate for radical societal change, change into something our society has never been before—that's "left" as compared to "right", that's Leftist. For sure. And are they both "big government", sure. But we can be big government and conservative, as long as it's a conservative big government. Sometimes you're going to need a big government, especially, just off the top of my head, if our society seems to becoming overwhelmed by crime. We need bigger government to handle a lot more crime. As a conservative ofc we support bigger government when it is justified.
 

Idolater

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it was some Groyper or Leftist (meaning "liberal" or Democrat or Marxist or other critical theorist, feminist for example). Both those parties advocate for radical societal change, change into something our society has never been before—that's "left" as compared to "right", that's Leftist. For sure.

Party A assassinated Kirk.

Party B celebrated and rejoiced and cheered.

Party A and Party B might be the same party, but it doesn't change what Party B has done.

Party B is the American (and Western) Left. So far, Party B is cowards. If Party B starts getting brave enough to commit political violence like this, then and only then are we looking at some sort of hot civil war here.

I would far rather Party A be a Groyper.
 
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