why i believe water baptism is not for today !!

in 1 Peter 3:21 , reads , the like figure where unto even baptisma is the correct Greek word here and this Greek word baptisma is used 22 times from Matthew through 1 Peter 3:21 .

where unto even baptisma ( meaning the Holy Spirit is doing the saving , not // is a disjuncative particle negative and NOT the putting away of the filth of the flesh .

this means water baptism is out and saved by grace reigns , and anyone saved today is by Rom 10:9-10 and Eph 2:8 .

dan p

I agree that there is ONE baptism for the body of Christ. I believe that because Paul clearly says exactly that:


And that ONE baptism is CLEARLY and UNAMBIGUOUSLY NOT water, again per Paul.


That cannot be more clear, in my opinion.

Right Divider said:

I agree that there is ONE baptism for the body of Christ. I believe that because Paul clearly says exactly that:

Eph 4:4-6 (AKJV/PCE)​

(4:4) [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; (4:5) One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (4:6) One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.​

And that ONE baptism is CLEARLY and UNAMBIGUOUSLY NOT water, again per Paul.

1Cor 12:12-13 (AKJV/PCE)​

(12:12) For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ. (12:13) For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.​

That cannot be more clear, in my opinion.

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and I am one two other forums and there are many that believe that water baptism does save them !

and many are RCC and many others , also , and that they can remit sins !

dan p