Alaskan health care worker suffers anaphylactic shock after vaccination

Gary K

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A health care worker with no history of vaccination or medical allergic reactions suffered anaphylactic shock severe enough to require two epipen injections as well as standard allergy medications for treatment. The person, who was not identified, was kept over night for observation and was still suffering mild symptoms the morning after.

Yeah, this really inspires trust in me. I'm just ready to jump up and run right down there for my life threatening side effect.

 

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So, anyone who gets a vaccination is going to have to get it where resuscitation facilities are available. That's not what I call a successful vaccine. And it just happens that no company making vaccines has any legal/fiscal responsibility for any of these side effects. When they get sued the DOJ will defend them and any monetary reward to victims will be paid for by taxpayers. The vaccine producers will never suffer any consequences whatsoever. Ain't that a sweet deal? For vaccine producers anyway. For the victims of their products not so great. It's just more cooperation between government and corporations. You know what that's called don't you? Fascism. And this is what the left is pushing upon the people of this nation. As usual they are projecting their own ideology and actions on everyone else.
 

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So don't get the vaccine! In fact- the vaccine is a waste of time and money in the US. At the current pace, you'll "Achieve" herd immunity in 3 or 4 months, and "achieve" another 300,000 dead on the way. Of course, if you'd wear a mask and stick to social distancing, things might be different- but Better Dead than Red!
 

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So don't get the vaccine!

:duh:

In fact- the vaccine is a waste of time and money in the US. At the current pace, you'll "Achieve" herd

Tribal is a better word, as it isn't dehumanizing.

immunity in 3 or 4 months, and "achieve" another 300,000 dead on the way.

You realize that most of the people who have died "with coronavirus" had contributing factors, and would have died anyways given the time?

Of course, if you'd wear a mask

Wearing a mask to stop or slow the spread of this virus is like trying to stop a mosquito with a chain-link fence. The aerosol particles that the virus can be found in are much smaller than the mask's "holes."

and stick to social distancing,

How about we get back to normal. We'll achieve tribal immunity much quicker that way, and fewer lives will be lost.

Or do you just want to prolong the amount of time we spend dealing with it?

things might be different- but Better Dead than Red!

Things would be much different had people not panicked, and had those in positions of power took advantage of that panic to gain more control over the population.

 

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:duh:



Tribal is a better word, as it isn't dehumanizing.



You realize that most of the people who have died "with coronavirus" had contributing factors, and would have died anyways given the time?



Wearing a mask to stop or slow the spread of this virus is like trying to stop a mosquito with a chain-link fence. The aerosol particles that the virus can be found in are much smaller than the mask's "holes."



How about we get back to normal. We'll achieve tribal immunity much quicker that way, and fewer lives will be lost.

Or do you just want to prolong the amount of time we spend dealing with it?



Things would be much different had people not panicked, and had those in positions of power took advantage of that panic to gain more control over the population.

Everybody will die eventually, so every disease is a "contributing factor". When your overweight diabetic 50 year brother dies, will you say 'well- he was going to die anyhow, sooner or later"?

Getting to 'Tribal Immunity' faster is great! It will overload the hospitals, so more will die, but hey- they were going to die anyhow- so who gives a dern?
 

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Everybody will die eventually, so every disease is a "contributing factor".

Don't move the goalposts.

We're talking about the ones who died "with coronavirus."

When your overweight diabetic 50 year brother dies, will you say 'well- he was going to die anyhow, sooner or later"?

Are you going to deny the truth of such a statement?

Getting to 'Tribal Immunity' faster is great!

Indeed.

It will overload the hospitals, so more will die,

Can you name any specific hospital that has been overloaded at any point during this entire year?

Because as far as I can tell, there hasn't been any.

Looking for the statistics currently. Will post when I find them, but basically, from the ones I've seen, hospitals haven't come anywhere close to capacity, let alone overflowing the ICUs.

but hey- they were going to die anyhow- so who gives a darn?

Not my point at all.
 

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So don't get the vaccine! In fact- the vaccine is a waste of time and money in the US. At the current pace, you'll "Achieve" herd immunity in 3 or 4 months, and "achieve" another 300,000 dead on the way. Of course, if you'd wear a mask and stick to social distancing, things might be different- but Better Dead than Red!
300,000 dead in 3-4 months from COVID-19 if we all start living like normal? Where do you get this idea from, and how do you explain Sweden?

But here is the cool part, when you figure out that there can't possibly be 300,000 dead in 3-4 months as you predict, will you fix your thinking? Masks don't work to stop a virus outbreak, distancing hurts more than it helps, and an economic slowdown will kill vastly more people than any virus in this day and age. Will you admit I'm right if you are wrong?
 

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All these deaths were preventable. The medical industry has known for more than a decade how to stop this, and they have not only not used their knowledge, they have demonized those who brought out the information studied as far back as 2003.

 

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300,000 dead in 3-4 months from COVID-19 if we all start living like normal? Where do you get this idea from, and how do you explain Sweden?

But here is the cool part, when you figure out that there can't possibly be 300,000 dead in 3-4 months as you predict, will you fix your thinking? Masks don't work to stop a virus outbreak, distancing hurts more than it helps, and an economic slowdown will kill vastly more people than any virus in this day and age. Will you admit I'm right if you are wrong?
Sweden was a failure, pure and simple. I don't know how the myth started that they did well.

300,000 more dead if Americans continue the way they are today! Not going 'back to normal'! The Covid death rate in the US today is 2,500 each day- and rising. In a 120 days, 300,000 more will die. Yes, I am oversimplifying, and sure, a lot of those people would have died in the next few years anyhow- but that's approximately where the US will be at. But, checking my calculations, I see that I was wrong! Apologies! Even after the 300,000 dead- we still won't be anywhere near 'tribal immunity'.
 

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Sweden was a failure, pure and simple. I don't know how the myth started that they did well.

Well there's you're problem. You're relying on the BBC to tell you the facts.

Try a different source that isn't scared out of their minds.


300,000 more dead if Americans continue the way they are today!

Because you say so?

Not going 'back to normal'!

You have permission to go back to normal. No more masks, no more distance. Never grumble, never fear, for we are Paul Revere.
WeArePaulRevere.net

The Covid death rate in the US today is
2,500 each day- and rising.

Cite please.

In a 120 days, 300,000 more will die.

Because you say so?

Yes, I am oversimplifying, and sure, a lot of those people would have died in the next few years anyhow-

In other words, the virus is simply a contributing factor to their deaths, not the primary cause.

but that's approximately where the US will be at.

Because you say so?

But, checking my calculations, I see that I was wrong!

Still are...

Apologies! Even after the 300,000 dead- we still won't be anywhere near 'tribal immunity'.

Because you say so?

How about all the people who are going to die because of the restrictions put in place in an attempt to slow/stop the spread of the virus? What of them?
 

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Do you know how you get large numbers of coronavirus "cases"? You test with a PCR test that is set to above 25 cycles on the "cycle threshold" (ct). By the time the ct threshold is at 40 the number of false positives is so high the test is worthless. The person being tested isn't shedding, and the test sensitivity is so high it is picking up viral trash. In other words it is registering parts and pieces of dead a dead virus. There is no infection whatsoever. It could even pick up rhinovirus, the common cold, and report it as coronavirus. The testing is a huge scam in and of itself.

 

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Sweden was a failure, pure and simple. I don't know how the myth started that they did well.

300,000 more dead if Americans continue the way they are today! Not going 'back to normal'! The Covid death rate in the US today is 2,500 each day- and rising. In a 120 days, 300,000 more will die. Yes, I am oversimplifying, and sure, a lot of those people would have died in the next few years anyhow- but that's approximately where the US will be at. But, checking my calculations, I see that I was wrong! Apologies! Even after the 300,000 dead- we still won't be anywhere near 'tribal immunity'.
Sweden had 0 excess deaths. Just like the US. We should have seen an increase in the absolute number of deaths year over year, accounting for population increases and aging. But we didn't. Sweden saw the same number of people die as expected, which is surprising since we should have seen a couple of things: First, because Sweden didn't mask or lock down anywhere near as completely as the US or any other country, that death bump should have been obvious, huge, and so unmistakeable Anders Tegnell would have been fired. But the deaths didn't exist. But even more damning was that we know the population that was supposed to have the excess deaths, a small age range at the top... but, no, there was nothing. If Sweden hadn't been berated so internationally, loudly, and unanimously, they would not have noticed anything beyond a normal flu season. That is not a "failure, pure and simple". It is, at BEST, a tiny increase of deaths compared to surrounding countries and also compared to other 4 season caucasian countries world-wide. But a tiny increase in COVID deaths, which would only be found with bad statistical practices above the noise, meant a huge saving of life economically - something you won't even count because you don't care about humanity as much as I do.

Turns out to be the same in the US. We have 0 excess deaths year over year. We should see the obvious bump of a pandemic, especially since there should be a small age range where the spike occurs... but it's not there.

As far as 300,000 deaths in 3-4 months. Please note the US has had greater than 90% compliance with masking in all major cities for a very long time. Lockdowns have *long* been draconian in areas where deaths are the worst. What we should see is some kind of change when masking and lockdowns work. But the only time these mandates work is when the trend is already down! Please, you might not be a infectious disease scientist but you only need to have common sense to know masks and lockdowns don't work. But even further, you might not be aware of this, but there is a flu season every year. It goes up twice a year in exactly the same places that COVID-19 did. So deaths will magically go down soon and we won't reach 300,000 deaths. How many deaths will we reach? Well, it will be in the same proportion that heart attacks, cancer, strokes, flu, and all other methods of death went down to create the 300,000+ deaths we've had from COVID-19 over the last 10 months.
 

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wait and see. It is pointless trying to convince most people on this site of anything at all, largely because most here have alternate facts.

 
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