Vaccine researcher admits spike protein is a dangerous toxin

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Gary K

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A pro vaccine doctor/researcher has come out and said that the spike protein, rather than being a very useful antibody, is a very toxic antigen and the cause of death, blood clotting, and bleeding as well as causing problems with reproductive organs.

This has been confirmed by a bunch of other doctors too. I've been reading these reports for several months. But Byram Bridle is an insider who has been interviewed by a media insider on a regular basis. He says this is a very serious mistake on the part of the vaccine researchers a producers. I tend to think this was an intentional "mistake" as the side effects of the spike protein accomplish that which the eugenicists desire to happen: extinguish life on earth.

The following link takes you to a long article explaining his findings, plus a link to his interview by Canadian media figure Alex Pierson on which he announced his findings.

www.lifesitenews.com

Vaccine researcher admits ‘big mistake,’ says spike protein is dangerous ‘toxin’ - LifeSite

‘Terrifying’ new research finds vaccine spike protein unexpectedly in bloodstream. The protein is linked to blood clots, heart and brain damage, and potential risks to nursing babies and fertility.
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This is the first thing you've posted that makes any sense at all. Congratulations.

I'm waiting to see how other researchers react to this. One thing that strikes me as odd, is that he is telling us this scary story, yet these horrible side effects are very rare. Why is that?
 
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chair said:
This is the first thing you've posted that makes any sense at all. Congratulations.

I'm waiting to see how other researchers react to this. One thing that strikes me as odd, is that he is telling us this scary story, yet these horrible side effects are very rare. Why is that?
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The problems are not so very rare. But you won't accept anything unless it comes from the mockingbird media. A bunch of insiders in the vaccine industry have come out and said the same thing Bridle is saying, that this is very likely going to be an extinction event as there is no way to reverse what they have done to the human body. But you refuse to listen to them.

No one can fix blind stubborness.
 
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24 hours ago, this was tweeted by Dr. David Fisman:

The website debunking Dr. Bridle's covid-19 vaccine claims has been updated with lots of peer-reviewed science that attests to the safety of vaccines. https://byrambridle.com And for those who think I made or organized this website: nope. But grateful to the scientists who did.

Who is David Fisman?

David Fisman is a University of Toronto professor in the area of epidemiology at the Dalla Lana School of Public Health.[1][2] He also works as an infectious disease specialist.
 
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expos4ever said:
24 hours ago, this was tweeted by Dr. David Fisman:

The website debunking Dr. Bridle's covid-19 vaccine claims has been updated with lots of peer-reviewed science that attests to the safety of vaccines. https://byrambridle.com And for those who think I made or organized this website: nope. But grateful to the scientists who did.

Who is David Fisman?

David Fisman is a University of Toronto professor in the area of epidemiology at the Dalla Lana School of Public Health.[1][2] He also works as an infectious disease specialist.
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LOL It took me all of 30 seconds to debunk your claims. The "school" you point to has a long history of financial connections to the vaccine industry. In other words they have a vested interest in pushing the vaccine industry's interests. That's called a conflict of interest and calls into question anything anyone associated with them has to say on the subject. It just makes me laugh at how the only institutions/people you guys believe are those who profit from vaccines. Someone who is willing to put their career on the line to tell the umpopular truth is not believable to you. That's just plain stupid.

I looked at the "debunking" site and it's a joke. It's half ad hominen against Bridle and has nothing but bald assertions. Nothing there debunks Bridle. Nothing there shows his narrative of what is happening inside the body of those who take these injections is wrong.

It's what I expect from you guys. No evidence, just unsupported assertions from someone who has money to make from the vaccine industry. Anyone who believes that type of person deserves to be conned and made to look stupid.
 
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It's what I expect from you guys. No evidence, just unsupported assertions from someone who has money to make from the vaccine industry. Anyone who believes that type of person deserves to be conned and made to look stupid.
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Excuse me? No evidence? Pot, meet kettle.

In your last post, you merely claim that there is a significant conflict of interest. No evidence to support this whatsoever. You think the readers will not notice that while you insist I provide evidence, you provide none yourself?

And you call me stupid?
 
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sciencebasedmedicine.org

The “deadly” coronavirus spike protein (according to antivaxxers)

Antivaxxers are citing three papers to support their claim that spike protein produced by COVID-19 vaccines is dangerous. Unsurprisingly and as usual, they're misinterpreting the studies and misrepres
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"Antivaxxers are citing three papers to support their claim that spike protein produced by COVID-19 vaccines is dangerous. Unsurprisingly and as usual, they’re misinterpreting the studies and misrepresenting their significance. COVID-19 vaccines are, in fact, very safe."
 
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ffreeloader said:
Your own wikipedia link says that the school has a 50 year relationship with the vaccine industry. So, you yourself provided the evidence.

What a nut job. You don't even read and understand what you post.
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I suggest you think things through carefully and do your homework lest further embarrassment for you ensure.

In this post, I will show that my critique about you being inconsistent still stands. Here's why:

1. You made a claim in post 6 that you did not support with evidence - you merely claimed that the school with which Dr. Fisman is associated has a financial connection to the vaccine industry.

2. You then complain, in that very same post, about people like me, not providing evidence to support our claims.

The problem here is obvious - you cannot demand others to provide evidence for statements when you do not provide evidence yourself.

The fact that you later discovered a link, in response to a challenge from me, is beside the point.

I will respond to the rest of your post shortly.
 
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:unsure: According to what I have heard around the water cooler at work, Dave Fisman has received vaccine-related research grants from Sanofi Pasteur Canada, Novartis Vaccines, GlaxoSmithKline Vaccines, and has also received unrestricted educational funding from these companies as well as Merck Vaccines, in support of the FitzGerald Seminar series at the University of Toronto.

....But that's just, ya know, the rumor. :rolleyes:
 
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expos4ever said:
I suggest you think things through carefully and do your homework lest further embarrassment for you ensure.

In this post, I will show that my critique about you being inconsistent still stands. Here's why:

1. You made a claim in post 6 that you did not support with evidence - you merely claimed that the school with which Dr. Fisman is associated has a financial connection to the vaccine industry.

2. You then complain, in that very same post, about people like me, not providing evidence to support our claims.

The problem here is obvious - you cannot demand others to provide evidence for statements when you do not provide evidence yourself.

The fact that you later discovered a link, in response to a challenge from me, is beside the point.

I will respond to the rest of your post shortly.
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Dalla Lana School of Public Health is the school of public health at the University of Toronto. It was founded in 1927, and was home for 50 years to Connaught Laboratories, a manufacturer of vaccines, insulin, and many other pharmaceutical products.
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Here is more on Fisman's lack of integrity.

https://canucklaw.ca/meet-david-fisman-ost-etfo-gaslighting-when-a-side-hustle-goes-horribly-wrong/

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Who's Behind The Ontario Science Table? A Look At Their Partners And Members - Canuck Law

For some background on the University of Toronto, Ontario Science Table, check this earlier article. While it’s true that there the vast majority of these members (and many Medical Health Officers in Ontario) have ties to U of T, there’s more to it than that. Let’s take a look: It’s important...
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Here's a link to Fisman's declaration of integrity. He admits being a paid consultant for Phizer and AZ.
 
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The following quote comes from Fisman's curriculum vitae.

As noted above, I am held in high regard by my international peers for my expertise in applying mathematical modeling and disease dynamics to health policy(as evinced by my invitation to help write the ISPOR-SMDM best-practices guidelines referred to elsewhere in this document). I see abundant opportunities to continue to expand our work that captures the economic benefits of immunization, while considering the positive and negative externalities (indirect effects) of immunization. In particular, current discussions with such industry partners as GlaxoSmithKline and Sanofi Pasteur focus on funding for work related to optimal strategies for pertussis immunization and on the economic attractiveness of vaccine stockpiling in Canada (such stockpiles are extant in the United States but not here).
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Oh, look at that. Industry partners GlaxoSmithKline and Sanofi Pasteur. Works at creating optimal strategies for dispensing vaccinations. Yeah, this guy is very neutral.

 
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Ok, let's talk about Dr. Fisman and his connections to vaccines. Yes, he works for a university that was home to a vaccine company.

You are trying to take advantage of the fact that readers will not think this through. But I will. If you are going to be an expert on vaccines, you are almost certainly going to be affiliated with a hospital and / or other academic institution that works to promote public health. And since vaccines are central to promoting public health, there will, again, almost certainly be a connection to vaccine manufacturing.

In short, it is highly unrealistic to expect that a vaccine expert will not have at least some connection, however tenuous and indirect, to a vaccine company. You are either hiding this fact from the reader, or you did not realize it.

Your argument here is like expecting an expert of aircraft safety system to have no connection at all to the industry that manufactures such systems - this is asking the impossible.

And what of the redoubtable Dr. Bridle when it comes to conflicts of interest? As we shall see in future posts, I can play the same card you have played.
 
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expos4ever said:
Ok, let's talk about Dr. Fisman and his connections to vaccines. Yes, he works for a university that was home to a vaccine company.

You are trying to take advantage of the fact that readers will not think this through. But I will. If you are going to be an expert on vaccines, you are almost certainly going to be affiliated with a hospital and / or other academic institution that works to promote public health. And since vaccines are central to promoting public health, there will, again, almost certainly be a connection to vaccine manufacturing.

In short, it is highly unrealistic to expect that a vaccine expert will not have at least some connection, however tenuous and indirect, to a vaccine company. You are either hiding this fact from the reader, or you did not realize it.

Your argument here is like expecting an expert of aircraft safety system to have no connection at all to the industry that manufactures such systems - this is asking the impossible.

And what of the redoubtable Dr. Bridle when it comes to conflicts of interest? As we shall see in future posts, I can play the same card you have played.
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The point is, when Fisman works for the vaccine industry he is very unlikely to criticize it's products. He has a built-in conflict of interest. He cannot be a neutral voice.
 
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