The Ultimate Anti-Romney Show Pt. 2

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The Ultimate Anti-Romney Show Pt. 2

This is the show from Wednesday, October 31st, 2012.

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The Top Billion Reasons To Not Vote for Mitt Romney: Bob Enyart concludes his interview of pro-life activist Will Duffy on the top billion reasons to not vote for Mitt Romney.

  • I have a funny Romney story that I almost forgot about. In 2008, I went to a Romney event (he was running for President) to let everyone know about his pro-abortion record. A lady walked up to toward me and I told her that Romney was a pro-abort. She said she thought he was pro-life, and that's why she was there. I corrected her and she said there was no point in her being there then. She dropped her Romney pamphlet on the ground and got back in her car and left.
  • My wife is smart: "Politics is now nothing more than a spectator sport." Exactly... I'ts perfectly fine to be a die-hard Broncos fans and support the team no matter who the players are or what the players believe.

    And now that politics is nothing more than a spectator sport, people support their team, the GOP, no matter who the players are and no matter what they stand for. Scary stuff...
  • While most people plan on voting once in November, I'll be voting twice. That's right, TWICE. Everyone tells me that since I'm not voting for Romney, I'm actually voting for Obama. (There's vote #1.) And so the opposite must also be true. Since I'm not voting for Obama, I must be voting for Romney. (There's vote #2.) One election, two votes.
  • If a 3rd party rises up in this country, it should be called the "We ought to obey God, rather than men" Party.
  • How many people would have told William Wilberforce they were sick and tired of him talking about slavery?
  • Mormonism has always been a cult. And of course, the only thing that could ever change that is the GOP nominating a Mormon as the Republican nominee. Now, Christians en masse claim Mormons are Christians too. Unbelievable...

    But here's the irony in the whole turn of events. Romney separates himself from Christianity! So here we have Christians setting aside GOD for the GOP, claiming that Mormons are just like any other Christian, while Mormons believe nothing of the sort.

    Romney gave the 2012 commencement address at Liberty University, the largest Christian university in the country. Liberty U teaches that Mormonism is a cult and so Romney, being politically savvy, said this in his speech to the audience made up of Christians of all denominations:

    "People of different faiths, like yours and mine, sometimes wonder where we can meet in common purpose, when there are so many differences in creed and theology."
  • I'm pretty down today and felt the need to modify the famous quote (often attributed to Edmund Burke) to make it for fitting for the times.

    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to support that evil."
  • When given options A and A, a wise man often chooses B.

    Yes, I'm talking about the November election. For all intents and purposes, there is no difference between the R and D.
  • "Hey Will, have you seen how bad Obama's record is?"
    Will - "Yup."
    "We need to get him out!"
    Will - "Have you seen Romney's record?"
    "His record doesn't matter, just what he's now saying on the campaign trail. That's what we have to go on."
    Will - "So why wouldn't we ignore Obama's record and go only on what he is saying on the campaign trail? He said everything is going to be great if we only give him 4 more years. Sounds like a double standard to me."
  • All my friends are asking me to become a hypocrite. I have principles which do not allow me to vote for Obama. They support me in that, but then ask me violate the exact same principles to vote for Romney. Why would I do that?
  • Who are you going to vote for in November?
  1. Barack Romney
  2. Mitt Obama
  3. Neither
  • I'm Against Obama More Than You

    The GOP's strategy of compromising in order to win hasn't worked. McCain was pretty liberal and transparent to the fact that he was not a Christian. He was slaughtered.

    If the GOP was smart, they would have realized their compromise strategy was a bad strategy, but instead they thought they didn't compromise enough. So they picked Romney, who's even further left than McCain and a Mormon no less. The GOP is testing if mega-compromise is the path to victory.

    If they win, have we really won? Of course not. We need to think big picture and long term here. Candidates that run as Christian, pro-life, anti-gay marriage politicians do quite well. (Reagan, W. Bush)

    What message do we want to send the GOP? That we stand with their compromising strategy or that we're more than willing to lose a battle in order to win the war?
  • Glenn Beck, a Mormon and Republican cheerleader, asked Rand Paul today for some assistance on what to tell people who think voting for Romney will just get us more of what Obama has to offer. I appreciate Glenn Beck seeking out help in that regard. That's a tough challenge to rebut.

    Rand Paul's answer? "I think we'll be better off." That's not an answer Rand!
  • If you're familiar with Maury's paternity tests, this is about the funniest thing I've ever seen.
  • Proverbs 16:8 says, "Better is a little with righteousness, than vast revenues without justice."

    Sadly, every election cycle reminds us that Christians have abandoned God's word.
  • God does not call on us to only vote against Obama. He calls on us to vote against any politician willing to kill innocent children.

    So in some elections, we are called on to vote against both candidates.
  • God hates the hands that shed innocent blood. (Prov. 6:17) That would include Mitt Romney.
  • ObamaCare is the lesser of two evil socialized healthcare mandates when compared to RomneyCare. I guess that means I'm supposed to support ObamaCare.
  • Trying to decide if I want to watch two liberals debate each other tonight.
  • If you want to watch Obama debate a pro-life Christian, you'll have to skip tonight's debate and just watch this debate instead.
  • All my friends are at the debate. Wish I could have been there too.
  • I was in the mood to watch a debate tonight between a conservative and a liberal. Just checked the TV guide. Nothing like that on television tonight. Bummer.
  • Records speak louder than words.
  • It's so interesting to see how conservatives have evolved over the years. Last night, conservatives all over the country were defending Romney's individually mandated, socialized healthcare plan over Obama's.

    Conservatives defending one form of socialism over another. Who would have thought?
  • Liberals are always sizing up candidates against their worldview. Conservatives size up their candidates against the liberals. Does no one else see anything wrong with this?
  • Have you ever wondered what it would have been like to live in Nazi Germany, where Jews were slaughtered daily, and people chose to debate the economy? Wonder no longer...
  • The Bible often uses pagans as an example to believers as to how they should act! Well, Christians could really learn a lesson from the Democrats.

    Democrats don't compromise. Democrats push to further and further entrench their worldview into society. Democrats do not look across the aisle at the Republican in order to determine who they will run. They simply don't care. They would rather lose than compromise, because they realize that compromise is the same as losing.

    Does this mean they are more dedicated in their hatred of God than Christians are in their obedience of Him?
  • I'm more concerned about who Christians have become than what this country has become.
  • I really can't stand the foolishness anymore. Come election time, people seem to lose the ability to make rational statements and arguments.

    I've been told dozens of times now that I'm looking for a perfect candidate, because I won't vote for Romney. Here's how the conversation goes:

    "You're looking for a perfect candidate and no one is perfect except Jesus!"
    Will - "I'm not voting for Romney because of his intense pro-abortion and pro-homosexual record, for starters."
    "No one is perfect, so get over it."
    Will - "I'm not going to vote for Obama because of his pro-abortion and pro-homosexual record. Does that mean I'm looking for a perfect candidate, because I won't vote for Obama?"
    Silence.
  • Christians would vote for Obama with an R if he was running against Obama with a D.
  • How many children does a politician have to be willing to kill before you will no longer vote for him? Or do you have no such threshold and will vote for anyone, no matter how evil, just as long as their opponent is willing to kill just one more than they are? It has to be one or the other.
  • God hates the hands that shed innocent blood, yet Christians vote for the hands that shed innocent blood.
  • Can someone please explain to me why people lose the ability to reason come election time?
  • If people had to at least know something about Romney's record before they would be allowed to vote for him, he would lose in a landslide.
  • Most people know that I think voting for Romney is a moral issue. (Excuse me for thinking that supporting someone who supports the killing of innocent people and has single-handedly done more to advance sodomy than any politician in this country, is a moral issue.)

    But I also think that voting for Romney is about the most foolish strategy I've ever heard of. You mean to tell me that voting for increasingly liberal politicians (W. Bush, McCain, Romney) is going to slowly bring us back to conservatism? How does that work again?
  • Two men are running for President of the United States and both men are racist. Both men want to return to slavery to fix the economy. Candidate A wants to enslave 100% of blacks in the country. Candidate B only wants to enslave 99% of blacks in the country. (He doesn't want to enslave the mentally handicapped.) Who would you vote for?
  • Two men are trying to break into a school. One guy is trying to break in because he wants to kill all the kids inside. The other guy is trying to break in because he wants to just kill some of the kids. Which one would you help get in the school?
  • Ignore this story. Nothing to see here. It's just the equivalent of a politician in the 1800s saying that slavery is not part of his agenda. No biggie. Let's focus on the economy!
  • Skip this article. It's only the equivalent of a politician in Nazi Germany saying that the Jews are not on his radar screen. Just focus on how bad Obama is and everything will be just fine.
  • I have a small favor to ask of everyone. If you're trying to get me to vote for Romney, please stop telling me what his campaign workers say.

    I'm not voting for his campaign workers, who are paid to clean up for Romney when he accidentally tells the truth on the campaign trail.
  • I'm going to put my money where my mouth is. The first person that can name any politician with a worse record than Mitt Romney on the issues of life (abortion) and marriage (homosexuality) wins a $250 Visa gift card from Will Duffy.

    In order to win, you must first LIKE this post and then provide the name of any politician in the country who has done more against the issues of life and marriage. And please share this with all your friends, so they have a chance to win too.
  • $250 Visa Gift card update. So far no one has provided any names other than Barack Obama and no one has succeeded in showing that Obama's record is worse than Romney's record on the issues of life and marriage.

    The fact that no one has provided any names besides Obama is a scary thought. Does this mean that the guy picked to run against Obama is the one guy in the country whose wicked record is closest to that of Obama's?
  • FYI, the "R" does not stand for righteous.
  • People have been telling me that I should vote for Romney because he picked a pro-life VP. Biden said tonight that he believes life begins at conception. I guess that means I should vote for Obama, because he picked a pro-life VP.
  • The reason Republican Presidential candidates take the position of rape, incest and life of the mother exceptions to abortion is this. If they take a no-exceptions position, they will lose the votes of those who hold the exceptions. But if they take an exceptions position, they don't lose the votes of those who have no exceptions.

    What this means is that those who have exceptions to abortion are more dedicated to keeping those exceptions legal than those without exceptions are to abolishing abortion completely.
  • Was anyone else disappointed last night when Paul Ryan said he believed blacks were persons, but then followed by saying "with exceptions"?
  • I see all the emotion and passion (including my own) being exerted for precious Jessica Ridgeway who was dismembered. Imagine if people (including myself) had that same emotion and passion for the little boys and girls dismembered daily in the womb. The abortion holocaust would be ended overnight.
  • Typical conversation with a Christian today:

    Will - "Would you vote for someone with a radical left-wing record?"
    Christian - "I'm not sure. It depends."
    Will - "Depends on what?"
    Christian - "Are they a republican or democrat?"
  • I just told my wife that I am pro-fidelity with exceptions. She is NOT happy.
  • Would you praise a politician in Nazi Germany for "winning" a debate while he argued that he would kill less Jews than his opponent?
  • You can lead a man to the truth, but you can't make him think.
  • The story of my life:

    2004 - "Will, you have to vote for the lesser of two evils. He only supports killing 10,000 kids, but the other guy supports killing 50,000 kids!"
    2008 - "Will, you have to vote for the lesser of two evils. He only supports killing 100,000 kids, but the other guy supports killing 500,000 kids!"
    2012 - "Will, you have to vote for the lesser of two evils. He only supports killing 1 million kids, but the other guy supports killing 5 million!"

    Am I the only one that sees the problem here? How exactly is this progress? What exactly is going to turn this around again?

    This sure looks to me like what Romans 3:8 warned us not to do.

    "And why not say, “Let us do evil that good may come”?—as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just." Rom. 3:8
  • I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Phil. 4:13 (This includes resisting the temptation to vote for Romney.)
  • How many people are planning on casting their vote for a man who supports dismembering Jessica Ridgeway if she was just a little bit younger?
  • Is anyone else tired of these Obama ads lying about Romney being pro-life?
  • The only pro-lifers who split the vote are the ones who vote for child killers.
  • For anyone that has a problem with President Obama, let me know when you find the perfect candidate.
  • Is Romney's inner Democrat coming out with the blue tie?
  • I need to clear something up here. Planned Parenthood, the evil organization that Romney gave permanent power to in Massachusetts, does not do mammograms.
  • Don't miss Romney's new abortion ad, where he ends the lie that he wants to end abortion and reaffirms that the economy is way more important than these little children!
  • If we can't afford 4 more years of Obama, I can't imagine how bad 8 years of Romney would be.
  • A lot of people are referring to the man who dismembered Jessica Ridgeway as a "monster." I could not agree more.

    But these same people support abortion and support candidates who support dismembering children. How old does a child need to be before dismembering them makes you a monster?
  • To all Romney voters: How many innocent children does a candidate have to support killing before you won't vote for him? Or will you vote for anyone as long as they support killing just one less child than their opponent?
  • So let me get this straight. All a politician has to do to get your vote is tell you he's changed his mind on everything he's done in the past?
  • From what everyone is telling me, it looks like Obama is going to win in a landslide!

    Everyone tells me that if someone doesn't vote at all, they're voting for Obama. And everyone tells me that if someone votes 3rd party, they're voting for Obama. And everyone also tells me that if someone writes in their vote, they too are voting for Obama.

    I may not be a math scholar, but if Obama gets all his votes, PLUS all non-votes, 3rd party votes and write-in votes, this is going to be an absolute slaughter!
  • Obama claims to be a Christian, yet all my friends tell me not to believe him because of all the evidence to the contrary.

    Romney claims to be pro-life, and all my friends tell me I have to believe what he says despite all the evidence against it.

    I just don't think I can take the hypocrisy anymore.
  • Don't worry God, I know what I'm doing here. He's going to fix the economy!
  • Does God ask us to win at all costs or to obey Him at all costs?
  • Come election time, I always remind myself to not get too caught up in the economy and how the different candidates will affect my future financially, because "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil."

    The love of money can make it easy to forget about the current holocaust in this country.
  • When you remove the mask on what many Christians are calling "political pragmatism," you find moral relativism.
  • The arguments to vote for pro-choice politicians have become so weak, I can't imagine where they're headed next.

    I predict that very soon the argument to vote for one politician over another will come down which one's wife is more pro-life.
  • Have you heard of the NPV translation of the Bible? It's the New Political Version. Here's Romans 12:21 in the NPV.

    "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with the lesser of two evils."
  • Okay, let's up the ante. Let's say Romney only supports killing one child as President. Just one. And he'll accomplish it by executive order. That's way better than Obama, right?

    So if that one child Romney supported killing turned out to be your son or daughter, would you still support him?

    This is important because Christ said, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Do we really love our neighbors as ourselves?
  • I need to clear something up. We do not have a 2-party system. (I would love it if we had a 2-party system.)

    What we have is a choice between two liberals. There are two options, yes. But not two parties.
  • Read another interesting verse in the NPV (New Political Version). It's 1 Thessalonians 5:22.

    "Abstain from every form of evil, except the lesser of two evils."
  • I had an epiphany today. People keep telling me that it appears I support Obama because I'm against Romney. That makes absolutely no sense to me, but I figured it out today.

    It's a symptom of the misnomer that if Obama is evil, his opposition is automatically by default, good. Just because a Democrat is bad, doesn't make a Republican good. And just because Obama is bad, doesn't make Romney good.

    That poor logic has spilled over into this idea that just because I think Romney is bad, I must therefore think Obama is good. That too is poor logic.
  • The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. The fear of Obama is the beginning of compromise.
  • Something occurred to me today. Christians literally don't stand for anything when it comes to voting. The proof is that no one will give me any disqualifying issues. How could they?
  • "Nutritionally, you are what you eat. Politically, you are what you vote." –Presidential Candidate Tom Hoefling

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The Top Billion Reasons To Not Vote for Mitt Romney:

For a second I thought this thread was written by bigbang123.

I was listening to Michael Savage tonight, http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/ he gave a billion and one reasons to vote for Romney, I only need one:

I can't stand the thought of the baby murdering sodomite Marxist and his band of Marxist cronies running the Oval Office for 4 more years.

If nothing else, our eyes need a rest from looking at this hag:

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For a second I thought this thread was written by bigbang123.

I was listening to Michael Savage tonight, http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/ he gave a billion and one reasons to vote for Romney, I only need one:

I can't stand the thought of the baby murdering sodomite Marxist and his band of Marxist cronies running the Oval Office for 4 more years.

If nothing else, our eyes need a rest from looking at this hag:

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So their baby killers are worse than yours?
 

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So their baby killers are worse than yours?

If you're voting for a candidate solely on a one issue platform (abortion), I could easily show how the baby murdering/sodomite Marxist and his band of Marxist cronies are worse. Remember my friend, the Democratic Party BOO'ED God at their convention, and have "choice" (anytime, anyplace, for any reason, and hey, let's have the taxpayer pay for it as well!) on their party's platform.

WND ran an excellent article on the "lesser of two evils" rant, I'll share parts of it here:

Beware the 'lesser-of-two-evils' trap

Exclusive: David Kupelian on how Founding Fathers would vote Nov. 6

"Wow. It’s one week before Election Day, the re-election of Obama is unthinkable, and the election is extremely close – every vote counts.

Against this backdrop, I am still seeing lots of articles and blog postings from self-described conservatives, Christians, constitutionalists, independents and patriots fervently proclaiming they will not vote for either Barack Obama or Mitt Romney, because they refuse to choose “the lesser of two evils.”

“The lesser of two evils is still evil,” they intone, as though those magical words encapsulate some transcendent logic.

Ironically, most of these people revere America’s Founding Fathers, quote them and refer to them often – indeed they see themselves as following in the founders’ footsteps, or at least adhering to their principles.

But in this they are profoundly deluded. For in reality, the Founding Fathers, by drafting, ratifying and implementing the Constitution of the United States, engaged in the most monumental example in American history of deliberately choosing the lesser of two evils.

By 1787, under the flawed Articles of Confederation, the recently liberated union was already unraveling. States were growing increasingly hostile toward one another, engaging in tariff wars that paralyzed interstate commerce. The national government was too weak to have a usable currency or to raise a decent army or navy, leaving the nation vulnerable – in fact, the British were occupying forts in parts of the U.S.! In short, escalating national and international problems threatened to destroy everything for which so many patriots had sacrificed their lives, fortunes and sacred honor.

So, what did our nation’s founders – from James Madison (“Father of the Constitution”) to George Washington (“Father of our Country”) – do in Philadelphia 225 years ago?

These courageous and devout Christian statesmen consciously, deliberately, purposefully chose to accommodate slavery – in fact, to constitutionally protect it for the next two decades – in the newly independent United States of America..."

Read more:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/beware-the-lesser-of-two-evils-trap/

Slavery was the "abortion" of our Founding Fathers time. By putting the MOST PRO ABORTION PRESIDENT EVER back in office for 4 more years, you're only going to add to the body count of the innocents'.
 

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So their baby killers are worse than yours?
If you're voting for a candidate solely on a one issue platform (abortion), I could easily show how the baby murdering/sodomite Marxist and his band of Marxist cronies are worse.
So yes, you will support killing babies but just not as many babies.


Remember my friend, the Democratic Party BOO'ED God at their convention,

Keep supporting people like Romney and one day the Republican party will be like the Democratic Party and BOO God at their convention.


and have "choice" (anytime, anyplace, for any reason, and hey, let's have the taxpayer pay for it as well!) on their party's platform.
You don't like it when the Democrats want taxpayer abortion but you will support Romney after he has already done this in Mass.
 

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"I have a funny Romney story that I almost forgot about. In 2008, I went to a Romney event (he was running for President) to let everyone know about his pro-abortion record. A lady walked up to toward me and I told her that Romney was a pro-abort. She said she thought he was pro-life, and that's why she was there. I corrected her and she said there was no point in her being there then. She dropped her Romney pamphlet on the ground and got back in her car and left."

If this litterbug is really that pliable she shouldn't ever vote, period. Countrymen like this terrify me.
 

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Quote:
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So their baby killers are worse than yours?

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If you're voting for a candidate solely on a one issue platform (abortion), I could easily show how the baby murdering/sodomite Marxist and his band of Marxist cronies are worse.

So yes, you will support killing babies but just not as many babies.

I'm acknowledging that abortion is not going to stop overnight, no matter who you or I vote for.

If you want to play your little "you will support killing babies but just not as many babies" game; by wasting your vote on some unknown pro life candidate that very might well cost the election for Romney, thus putting the proud unrepentant baby murderers back in office for 4 more years, you are in essence killing more babies than I will be.

But remember, it wasn't Christian conservatives that brought us to this state of moral decay in our country, and it certainly wasn't the handful of atheists either, it was the Christians "who are not of this world", that don't bother to get involved in the political scene and vote. Blame them, not me.

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Remember my friend, the Democratic Party BOO'ED God at their convention,

Keep supporting people like Romney and one day the Republican party will be like the Democratic Party and BOO God at their convention.

I'm not a "Romney supporter". Refer to my "who are not of this world" comment above, those are the people that gave the Republican Party Mitt Romney. Besides, I get involved and hold my elected representatives responsible, especially AFTER they're elected.

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and have "choice" (anytime, anyplace, for any reason, and hey, let's have the taxpayer pay for it as well!) on their party's platform.

You don't like it when the Democrats want taxpayer abortion but you will support Romney after he has already done this in Mass.

Romney has a terrible track record as Governor, Obama has a HORRID record as a sitting President. Yet you want to give the HORRID record a 2nd chance?
 

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baby murdering

Hi aCW! I know that elsewhere you have stated your support for Paul Ryan. Do you agree with what Paul Ryan said about abortion? As Chatmaggot posted in another thread:

Paul Ryan said:

"But the policy of a Romney administration will be to oppose abortion with the exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother."​

Romney/Ryan are pro-aborts


That means Romney will look the other way when some people kill their babies.

TruthSetsFree...wake up!!! Quite being a follower of men and follow Christ.

To which I replied:

Right!

If abortion is wrong because it is the taking of an innocent human life, then why is abortion right in cases of rape or incest?! Aren't those babies innocent as well?

The Republicrats are hypocrites and phonies!
 

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Hi aCW! I know that elsewhere you have stated your support for Paul Ryan. Do you agree with what Paul Ryan said about abortion?...

Hi Paulos! Do we need to go back to the "No Libertarian Option?" thread and show your support for Libertarianism? Do I need to go over the Libertarian Party's stance on abortion?
 

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Hi Paulos! Do we need to go back to the "No Libertarian Option?" thread and show your support for Libertarianism? Do I need to go over the Libertarian Party's stance on abortion?

Why are you trying to dodge and detract from my post? Plain and simple: If abortion is wrong because it is the taking of innocent human life, then why is abortion right in cases of rape or incest? Aren't those babies innocent as well?
 

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Why are you trying to dodge and detract from my post? Plain and simple: If abortion is wrong because it is the taking of innocent human life, then why is abortion right in cases of rape or incest? Aren't those babies innocent as well?

Here is what's plain and simple my Libertarian friend:

Either Barack Hussein Obama, the MOST pro abortion President in the history of the United States is going to stay in office and as a lame duck President, really show us his "pro choice/pro homosexuality stuff", or a liberal Republican out of Taxachusetts will be. It doesn't matter who a handful of disgruntled people vote for, one of them WILL be the next POTUS.

I'd rather have a man in the office who answers to the pro-life/pro-family people who put him there, than a proud unrepentant Marxist who won't.

By the way, what have you to gain by showing videos of Romney's past and present stance on abortion? (it's been common knowledge for sometime).
 

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aCW the point I think you're missing is that Ryan/Romney's alleged position on abortion is utterly flawed, hypocritical, and totally unworkable. If abortion is wrong, then it's wrong, flat out. If any exceptions are made, the whole position becomes completely untenable.

If abortion is wrong because it is the taking of innocent human life, then why is abortion right in cases of rape or incest? Aren't those babies innocent as well?
 

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aCW the point I think you're missing is that Ryan/Romney's alleged position on abortion is utterly flawed, hypocritical, and totally unworkable. If abortion is wrong, then it's wrong, flat out. If any exceptions are made, the whole position becomes completely untenable.

If abortion is wrong because it is the taking of innocent human life, then why is abortion right in cases of rape or incest? Aren't those babies innocent as well?

You're preaching to the choir Paulos when it comes to abortion, but you don't understand what I've written.

One of two men is going to be the next President of the United States. One of them represents a political party platform that has abortion on it, the other doesn't.

Which would you vote for?

Regarding Paul Ryan's comments on abortion for rape/incest/life of the mother:

How about we deal with the 95% of abortions that are done out of convenience before we worry about the other 5% that are aborted due to rape, incest or to save the life of the mother?

Besides, Ryan has always received good marks from pro-life groups:

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/08/11/pro-life-groups-applaud-selection-of-pro-life-rep-paul-ryan/

http://www.varight.com/news/pro-life-groups-praise-paul-ryan-pick/

And let's not forget about what the baby killers think about Ryan:

http://in.news.yahoo.com/pro-life-paul-ryan-rapped-anti-abortion-extremist-113147647.html

Perhaps there is hope for the unborn of America after all?
 

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You're preaching to the choir Paulos when it comes to abortion, but you don't understand what I've written.

One of two men is going to be the next President of the United States.

And your point is completely irrelevant when it comes to abortion, because when Ryan/Romney say that they would keep abortion legal in cases of rape and incest they totally undermine their entire position against abortion.
 

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And your point is completely irrelevant when it comes to abortion, because when Ryan/Romney say that they would keep abortion legal in cases of rape and incest they totally undermine their entire position against abortion.

Everything looks good on paper in your world.

Now welcome to reality:

"Seven-hour non-stop gang rape by 12 Afghan MUSLIM refugees was the ‘most gruesome rape marathon in Sweden’s history,’ say prosecutors...

The victim is now confined to a wheelchair, suffering severe mental distress..."

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2012/...uslim-asylum-seekers-in-swedish-refugee-camp/

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While these cases are rare (at least in the US...for now), and the unborn child shouldn't be punished for the sins of his or her 12 fathers, had she been impregnated by her Muzzie attackers:

Go ahead, tell her that she HAS to have the baby.
 

Paulos

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Everything looks good on paper in your world.

Now welcome to reality:

"Seven-hour non-stop gang rape by 12 Afghan MUSLIM refugees was the ‘most gruesome rape marathon in Sweden’s history,’ say prosecutors...

Go ahead, tell her that she HAS to have the baby.

Just so we're clear: Are you saying that you think abortion should be kept legal in cases of rape?
 

aCultureWarrior

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Just so we're clear: Are you saying that you think abortion should be kept legal in cases of rape?

Just so we're clear:

Let's worry about the 95% of cases where abortion is used as a convenience (i.e. "How am I supposed to go out dancing if I have that "thing" in my stomach?") before we start worrying about whether a woman that was gang raped by 12 Muzzies for 7 hours keeps her baby.

Get out more Paulos, living in the world of what looks good on paper isn't healthy for the brain.
 

Paulos

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Let's worry about the 95% of cases where abortion is used as a convenience (i.e. "How am I supposed to go out dancing if I have that "thing" in my stomach?") before we start worrying about whether a woman that was gang raped by 12 Muzzies for 7 hours keeps her baby.

If abortion is wrong because it is the taking of innocent human life, then why is abortion right in cases of rape or incest? Aren't those babies innocent as well?
 

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If you're voting for a candidate solely on a one issue platform (abortion), I could easily show how the baby murdering/sodomite Marxist and his band of Marxist cronies are worse. Remember my friend, the Democratic Party BOO'ED God at their convention, and have "choice" (anytime, anyplace, for any reason, and hey, let's have the taxpayer pay for it as well!) on their party's platform.
A single issue? Far from it. It just happens that the right to life is the most important issue.

Also, Romney instituted taxpayer funded abortion in MA as governor, with his government healthcare [read: taxpayer funded/socialized].

And he doesn't even know who God is.

And another thing that happened in MA while Romney was governor was the legalization of homo marriage.

And Bain Capital made money off of abortions.

So, how is he not a baby-killing, homo supporting, socialist?

WND ran an excellent article on the "lesser of two evils" rant, I'll share parts of it here:

Beware the 'lesser-of-two-evils' trap

Exclusive: David Kupelian on how Founding Fathers would vote Nov. 6

"Wow. It’s one week before Election Day, the re-election of Obama is unthinkable, and the election is extremely close – every vote counts.

Against this backdrop, I am still seeing lots of articles and blog postings from self-described conservatives, Christians, constitutionalists, independents and patriots fervently proclaiming they will not vote for either Barack Obama or Mitt Romney, because they refuse to choose “the lesser of two evils.”

“The lesser of two evils is still evil,” they intone, as though those magical words encapsulate some transcendent logic.

Ironically, most of these people revere America’s Founding Fathers, quote them and refer to them often – indeed they see themselves as following in the founders’ footsteps, or at least adhering to their principles.

But in this they are profoundly deluded. For in reality, the Founding Fathers, by drafting, ratifying and implementing the Constitution of the United States, engaged in the most monumental example in American history of deliberately choosing the lesser of two evils.

By 1787, under the flawed Articles of Confederation, the recently liberated union was already unraveling. States were growing increasingly hostile toward one another, engaging in tariff wars that paralyzed interstate commerce. The national government was too weak to have a usable currency or to raise a decent army or navy, leaving the nation vulnerable – in fact, the British were occupying forts in parts of the U.S.! In short, escalating national and international problems threatened to destroy everything for which so many patriots had sacrificed their lives, fortunes and sacred honor.

So, what did our nation’s founders – from James Madison (“Father of the Constitution”) to George Washington (“Father of our Country”) – do in Philadelphia 225 years ago?

These courageous and devout Christian statesmen consciously, deliberately, purposefully chose to accommodate slavery – in fact, to constitutionally protect it for the next two decades – in the newly independent United States of America..."

Read more:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/beware-the-lesser-of-two-evils-trap/

Slavery was the "abortion" of our Founding Fathers time. By putting the MOST PRO ABORTION PRESIDENT EVER back in office for 4 more years, you're only going to add to the body count of the innocents'.
You mistakenly think I'm a Constitutionalist.
 
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