Texas' HB2: Has 2 Backfire

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Texas' HB2: Has 2 Backfire

This is the show from Tuesday July 16th, 2013

Summary:

* Bob & Will Analyze Texas' HB2 Child Killing Regulation: Bob welcomes Will, one of his long-time producers, back into the studio to analyze the latest child-killing regulation, this one in Texas. The "regulation" of any crime, such as adultery, murder, rape, lynchings, etc., is inherently immoral, it worthlessly does evil that good may come of it, when regulating abortion, it undermines the right to life, and delays the ability to protect every child by love and by law.

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* Texas State Rep. Fabby Dialogues with a Personhood Advocate
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T.J. Fabby for Texas State Representative To the unborn younger than 20 weeks: You are worth fighting for, too. I pledge to continue the fight to restore your rights!

Will D T.J., why did you consent to the killing of children under 20 weeks and children with abnormalities in order to try and save some? It's wrong to consent to the killing of someone innocent in order to save others.

T.J. Fabby for Texas State Rep. What are you talking about, Will? I haven't consented to the killing of anyone.

Will D H.B. 2 consents to the killing of preborn children before 20 weeks and children with abnormalities. A vote for this bill is agreement with that consent.

T.J. Fabby for Texas State Rep. A vote against this bill does nothing and saves none of them. Is that what you prefer?

Will D T.J., back to my original point, it's wrong to consent to the killing of some in order to save others. When a terrorist takes a school full of children hostage, and offers to let certain kids go if he can kill others, you do not take him up on his offer. Even though you will save none of them by refusing his offer, you still refuse.

T.J. Fabby for Texas State Rep. So you would prefer to save none of them?

Will D T.J., I'm not sure for which situation you're asking (H.B. 2 or the hostage situation), but my answer is the same for both. I would never consent to the killing of some in order to save others. In the hostage situation, I would not consent to the killing of some of the children in exchange for the release of others. In reference to H.B. 2, I would not consent to the killing of pre-20 week babies or babies with abnormalities, in order to save others.

If I refused to negotiate with the terrorist holding the school hostage, would you accuse me of preferring to save none of them?

T.J. Fabby for Texas State Rep. Babies are being killed....it's not just a threat. So you would prefer to save none of them?

Will D T.J., imagine then if the terrorist was killing one child per hour, on the hour, until his offer was accepted. I still would not consent to the killing of some of the children in exchange for the release of others. In the hostage situation, do you accuse me of preferring to save none of them?

* Texas Representative T.J. Fabby Did Not Respond: Of course he may have been busy and not seen Will's last post. As a result, he did not answer the question. Will concluded with this:

Will D T.J., I believe you misunderstood Neil Copley's post. He was telling you in a nice way that you are not doing your job. It is not the function of the legislature to save as many as it can. For example, it is the function of a first responder to save as many children from a burning building, and the function of the legislature is to make arson illegal.

If this was Nazi Germany, H.B. 2 would be the equivalent of banning the killing of a Jew once he/she reached 40 years of age (unless they were handicapped, in which case you can kill them at any age). Of course the Nazis would make sure to kill all Jews before the age of 40. This is why H.B. 2 went out of its way to state that it did not have the power to stop one woman in Texas from getting an abortion. It bragged that it did not impose an "undue burden" or "substantial obstacle" on a woman wanting to kill her child. I would encourage you to publicly apologize of your support for H.B. 2 and encourage Rick Perry not to sign it.
 

chrysostom

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well excuse us while we reduce the number of abortions
and
we will try to get out of your way

we know you want to save them all
and
that is wonderful
but
don't forget the one that you can save
 

chrysostom

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It is sad to watch those that are acting with good intentions fighting against those that are trying to do what is right.

who is fighting against whom?

you go right ahead and save all you want
but
don't get in our way when we try to save one
 

genuineoriginal

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don't get in our way when we try to save one

The "victory" on partial-birth abortion shows that laws that permit killing babies do not actually save any.

In the long run, instead of having to fight against Roe v. Wade, the battle is now against every one of the scores of laws that provide guidelines that say when you can kill the baby.

"If you let your parents know, then you can kill the baby"
"If you can admit patients in a local hospital, then you can kill the baby"
"If you don't wait more than 20 weeks, then you can kill the baby"

These are all bad laws that do not save any lives.
 

Jefferson

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don't they get credit for hating abortion more than we do?
chrysostom, that fact that Granite is on your side on this issue should be a big red flag to you that you probably have taken the wrong side.
 

aCultureWarrior

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well excuse us while we reduce the number of abortions
and
we will try to get out of your way

we know you want to save them all
and
that is wonderful
but
don't forget the one that you can save

After 40 years of murder being legalized and 56 million victims, I guess you republicrats have to do something so that you'll feel better about yourselves.
 

Jefferson

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Morality cannot be legislated.
Every law is a legislation of morality. Even speed limit laws. A speed limit is someone's view that it is immoral to drive faster than this particular speed on this particular road.
 

lifeisgood

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we get to decide what is legislated

we vote

We can vote all we want, however, morality cannot be legislated. How many laws do we have in the books, for example, that say "thou shalt not murder"? How many murders have occurred since these 'morality' laws were enacted? Whoever keeps count have lost count.

Morality cannot be legislated.
 

chrysostom

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We can vote all we want, however, morality cannot be legislated. How many laws do we have in the books, for example, that say "thou shalt not murder"? How many murders have occurred since these 'morality' laws were enacted? Whoever keeps count have lost count.

Morality cannot be legislated.

so murder should not be illegal?
 
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