Ted Cruz may save the GOP healthcare bill

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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...alth-care-bill-insurance-regulations-ted-cruz

Ted Cruz has a big idea that just might unlock a Senate health care deal

An amendment is under consideration that maybe, just maybe, could unlock the whole Senate Republican health bill. It might knock over the dominoes necessary for a deal, starting with regulations, moving to tax subsidies, and ending up with more cash for Medicaid and fewer tax cuts for the rich.

It comes with big long-term risks for Americans who have high medical costs — and it could ultimately shift the burden of covering the uninsured further way from middle-class Americans who already have insurance, and more onto predominantly wealthy taxpayers.

Its author? Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas.

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Enter Cruz. Here’s how the Texas senator described his plan, in his own words, on Wednesday:
If an insurance company offers at least one plan in the state that is compliant with the (Obamacare) mandates, that company can also sell any additional plan that consumers desire.

What that does is it maintains the existing protections, but it gives consumers additional new options above and beyond of what they can purchase today.
As a matter of politics, you could see how the idea would be a winner: Moderates can say they kept Obamacare’s insurance reforms and conservatives get to say they allowed non-Obamacare plans back on the market.

As a matter of policy, it’s a much more complicated picture.

The fundamental problem is sicker people would be drawn to the more robust Obamacare plans, while healthier people would gravitate toward the skimpier non-Obamacare coverage. That’s a reality that even Cruz acknowledges.

Then inside the Obamacare market, as more and more sick people buy coverage there, costs for health insurers go up and so they increase premiums. It has the makings of a classic death spiral. Because only sick people remain, premiums eventually increase to astronomic levels. It turns the Obamacare exchanges into a high-risk pool.

Cruz’s counter, when I asked him about this, was the Obamacare subsidies that the Senate bill is largely keeping, though it scales them down. Under Obamacare, people who receive the subsidies are partially inoculated from premium increases because they pay only a certain percentage of their income for health insurance. The Senate’s bill also includes upward of $100 billion to further subsidize people with high medical costs.

“You would likely see some market segmentation” Cruz told me. “But the exchanges have very significant federal subsidies, whether under the tax credits or under the stabilization funds.”

That is true. But outside experts argued that the costs to the federal government could be unsustainable. As the Obamacare markets turned into high-risk pools, premiums would increase, driving the cost of the tax subsidies higher and higher.

“Keeping the ACA tax credits would, in theory, protect subsidized consumers,” Larry Levitt, senior vice president at the Kaiser Family Foundation, told me. “But the cost of those tax credits would quickly skyrocket, because healthy people would flock to non-complaint plans, which could cherry pick them with inexpensive premiums.”

Cruz acknowledged that his plan would depend on taxpayer subsidization of people with high medical costs. But, he argued, it was better for the federal government to pick up the tab than requiring health plans to charge sick people and healthy people the same premiums, increasing costs for the latter.

“It’s not fair to a working-class person who’s struggling to put food on the table, for the federal government to double their premiums trying to work an indirect subsidy for others who are ill. Far better to have it through direct tax revenue,” Cruz told me.

So it becomes a question of the federal government’s willingness to pay that bill, indefinitely into the future. Otherwise, people with high medical costs could be stuck with a market that doesn’t function and isn’t adequately subsidized. The whole idea is dependent on an effectively unlimited federal commitment to pay the bills.





Thoughts? It seems like a decent compromise but the big quesiton is if the gov't would provide the funds necessary to protect those who end up with high premiums.
 

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If McConnell adopted the proposal — Cruz’s office declined to comment on the ongoing Senate negotiations — it could start knocking over dominoes that would bring Republicans closer to consensus on a health care bill.

First, moderates would need to accept it as an adequate protection for people with preexisting conditions. Then the conservatives, having won a victory on their biggest priority, could then be willing to bend on some other issues. They might, for example, be open to keeping some of Obamacare’s taxes to pay for moderate priorities.

Some of those more moderate senators, such as Mike Rounds of South Dakota, said Wednesday that they wanted to limit the tax breaks for the wealthy to help boost the funding for poor and middle-class Americans.

“The challenge is if we do things, we also have to find a way to pass for it,” he told reporters. “I think we ought to to take a look at the investment tax that’s in the system and whether or not it would be appropriate to allow that tax to remain so that we can afford to pay for some of these additional costs.”

That would allow McConnell to pump more funding into Medicaid, the insurance subsidies and the opioid crisis. The majority leader is already adding money to the bill; Politico reported funding for the opioid crisis would be increased from $2 billion to $45 billion. But that probably won’t be enough: Sen. Shelley More Capito (R-WV), one of the senators most focused on Medicaid and opioids, said her core concerns were with the current bill’s Medicaid cuts. More funding, perhaps facilitated by Cruz’s proposal, could help.


 

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That's insidious, and I'll tell you why. Obamacare works, in large part, by limiting the range of plans that can be offered. There are no explicit price caps, but there are limits to how much more can be charged to customers in different circumstances. If you can start pushing people away from Obamacare-regulated plan, into cheaper plans with more limits, you can make the Obamacare-regulated plans more and more expensive, which then prices people out of the market for them. It's a stealth way of allowing the insurance companies to limit the coverage the main plans they sell to cheap-to-insure customers.

The whole point of insurance is risk pooling. The more you allow the insurance companies to divide up the pools, the less benefit it is to the customers, and the more advantage insurance companies have. It's a pure step backward.
 

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Ted Cruz may save the GOP healthcare bill

Conservative "hardliners" spent the last years promising to repeal and replace "Obamacare" if the opportunity arose!

This opportunity has now arisen, but the White House and both Houses of Congress, in their infinite wisdom, are still unable to get their collective acts together - even after 150 days in office!

Backpedalling from "Obamacare" despite having control of the White House, the House and the Senate will be awful difficult for Trump, Ryan and McConnell to accept!
 

kmoney

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That's insidious, and I'll tell you why. Obamacare works, in large part, by limiting the range of plans that can be offered. There are no explicit price caps, but there are limits to how much more can be charged to customers in different circumstances. If you can start pushing people away from Obamacare-regulated plan, into cheaper plans with more limits, you can make the Obamacare-regulated plans more and more expensive, which then prices people out of the market for them. It's a stealth way of allowing the insurance companies to limit the coverage the main plans they sell to cheap-to-insure customers.

The whole point of insurance is risk pooling. The more you allow the insurance companies to divide up the pools, the less benefit it is to the customers, and the more advantage insurance companies have. It's a pure step backward.
Did you read the article? That's basically what the article talks about which is why the one critial point would be if the gov't would be willing to subsidize those in higher priced plans. Unless I'm missing something in your post.
 

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The Republicans are claiming premium reductions in Trumpcare because they are allowing the insurance companies to offer substandard plans that fail to provide comprehensive coverage.

The American public is being put in the untenable position of predicting as to what kind of specific medical coverage they will need in the future - as opposed to those plans mandated under Obamacare that provide for a range of healthcare needs!
 

kmoney

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The Republicans are claiming premium reductions in Trumpcare because they are allowing the insurance companies to offer substandard plans that fail to provide comprehensive coverage.
And the premiums only go down for young, healthy people.
 

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Like maternity care for men?


:angrymob::angrymob::angrymob::angrymob::angrymob::angrymob::angrymob::angrymob:

By 2026 Trumpcare premiums are projected to decrease by 5.5%!

By 2026 Obamacare premiums are projected to decrease by 4.6% - a 0.9% difference for far more comprehensive plans!

:angrymob::angrymob::angrymob::angrymob::angrymob::angrymob::angrymob::angrymob:
 

rexlunae

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Did you read the article? That's basically what the article talks about which is why the one critial point would be if the gov't would be willing to subsidize those in higher priced plans. Unless I'm missing something in your post.

Well, you can subsidize it, but there's no mechanism that would control the price. So you'd have a huge subsidy of insurance companies that still don't have to make insurance affordable to the elderly and the sick. Price control comes from forcing everyone into a single pool, currently. This is basically like high risk pools, except that people with cheap needs don't get much consumer protection from Obamacare regulations.
 

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Well, you can subsidize it, but there's no mechanism that would control the price. So you'd have a huge subsidy of insurance companies that still don't have to make insurance affordable to the elderly and the sick. Price control comes from forcing everyone into a single pool, currently. This is basically like high risk pools, except that people with cheap needs don't get much consumer protection from Obamacare regulations.

Well, that is why they cannot change it without getting more people mad than happy.

Yet forcing people to pay a private sector broker is not fitting either, and they do not have a good enough profit margin.

Only silly people think insurance companies want to help people; they, like banks, want to make money.

The solution, which will eventually come is universal healthcare.
 

rexlunae

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Well, that is why they cannot change it without getting more people mad than happy.

Yet forcing people to pay a private sector broker is not fitting either, and they do not have a good enough profit margin.

Only silly people think insurance companies want to help people; they, like banks, want to make money.

The solution, which will eventually come is universal healthcare.

Can't disagree with any of that. I think single payer is where we end up. It's not a panacea, but it is a lot better.
 

Ktoyou

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Can't disagree with any of that. I think single payer is where we end up. It's not a panacea, but it is a lot better.

It is unavoidable.

Culture is three generations deep.

My great grandchildren will grow up in a society where objecting to universal healthcare is seen as a silly prejudice by backwards thinkers.

Why would I care knowing I will, most likely be dead then. :idunno:
 

kmoney

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Ted Cruz got his idea in the new Senate version of the bill. But no funding to help with it becoming a high risk pool.
 
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