Muhammad Ali

[Nick M]

I didn't want to derail what is supposed to be the light hearted chatbox, so it can go here.

Just another muslim in hell. Perhaps if he wasn't such an anti-American jerk I would feel a bit of sympahy, but nope.

 

[patrick jane]

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[Nick M]

By the way, I agree that he should be regarded as a legendary fighter. You can not say with people from a different era that one is better than the other. In other words, I don't know that he can beat Mike Tyson if they fought a few times like others did in the past. I mean Mike Tyson before his wife divorced him and he still fought they way Cus D'Amato trained him.

Like Ali-Frazier and Ali-Foreman, it would be a great fight.

 

[andyc]

I didn't want to derail what is supposed to be the light hearted chatbox, so it can go here.

Just another muslim in hell. Perhaps if he wasn't such an anti-American jerk I would feel a bit of sympahy, but nope.

My bible says, "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God".
Your republican right wing addition says, "all gays, abortionists, religious, and democrats have sinned and come short of the glory of God".
It's not for you to say who's in hell, or you'll be judged in the measure you judge.

 

[Nick M]

It's not for you to say who's in hell, or you'll be judged in the measure you judge.

And yet you let this roll off your tongue.

You cannot fall into these kind of sins and practice them unashamedly. Sin does not effect our righteousness, but if you are sinning wilfully, your actions are betraying the savior who suffered and died to free us from our bondage to sin, which means you are effectively despising his grace (denying faith). A total denial of faith leads to a denial of our salvation.

No surprise that Andycain defends a muslim that hated America.

 

[Nick M]

It's not for you to say who's in hell, or you'll be judged in the measure you judge.

There is a difference between a single act of sin (whether in ignorance or weakness), and a continual course of wilfully sinning.

 

[Nick M]

It's not for you to say who's in hell, or you'll be judged in the measure you judge.

Someone who claims to be saved, and yet their lifestyle is no different to that of an unbeliever, is not saved. They are deceiving themselves.

What is amazing is you buffoons that try and use double speak in the age of the internet. What a clown you are.

 

[andyc]

Nick M fails to realize the difference between judging those who claim to be brothers, and those who are outsiders (1 Cor 5:12-13).

This is one of the failures of MAD. It is a pharisaic sect where sinners are judged by those claiming to be Christians.

 

[Nick M]

Nick M fails to realize the difference between judging those who claim to be brothers, and those who are outsiders (1 Cor 5:12-13).

Someone who claims to be saved, and yet their lifestyle is no different to that of an unbeliever, is not saved. They are deceiving themselves.

 

[theophilus]

[MENTION=9932]andyc[/MENTION],

You're missing your own irony.

 

[andyc]

If a person is not saved, God is their judge. Hell is what we all deserve, no other person deserves hell more than we. So to say that a person is in hell, is to pass the kind of judgement that we deserve on to others.

 

[andyc]

@andyc,

You're missing your own irony.

Are you MAD?

 

[theophilus]

Are you MAD?

No.

 

[andyc]

Ah...ok, so explain your comment.

 

[theophilus]

Look at the two quotes of yours Nick M has posted together.

In the first one you talk about who is judging who and in the second quote you've made a judgement.

Do you see it?

If not, step back and re-read both quotes CAREFULLY.

 

[Nick M]

If not, step back and re-read both quotes CAREFULLY.

It doesn't matter to him. He is here to pervert the truth, no matter what it is.

 

[andyc]

Look at the two quotes of yours Nick M has posted together.

In the first one you talk about who is judging who and in the second quote you've made a judgement.

Do you see it?

If not, step back and re-read both quotes CAREFULLY.

Did you not see what I mentioned about judging those who claim to be brothers, and those outside?

No you didn't. Go and read it.

 

[glorydaz]

Did you not see what I mentioned about judging those who claim to be brothers, and those outside?

No you didn't. Go and read it.

What I see is you saying unbelievers are not saved and thinking that's better than Nick saying someone is in hell. I'm thinking you're a liberal and your "speak" is so much better than the other guy's. :chuckle:

 

[andyc]

What I see is you saying unbelievers are not saved and thinking that's better than Nick saying someone is in hell. I'm thinking you're a liberal and your "speak" is so much better than the other guy's. :chuckle:

A person who is saved will not come into judgement, a person who isn't saved will be judged. Hell may or may not be the sentence for those who do not know Christ. To say that a person is in hell, is to pass sentence on that person. How can people who deserve to go to hell, condemn others to hell?