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  1. Clete

    Charlie Kirk murdered by the left

    I don't know how any of you tolerate interacting with him.
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    My post was too short and conveyed hostility that wasn't intended. The simple fact is that neither of us is making any progress toward convincing the other. I present a dichotomy that you call a false dichotomy and then firmly sit on one of the dichotomy's horns. I talk about how much energy it...
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    Oh, yes it does! Pluto and its five moons would have had to leave the Earth together, in close proximity with each other and in just such a way as to end up in almost perfectly circular and very very stable orbits. The three-body problem demonstrates how entirely impossible such an idea is. It...
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    Why? It's just another way in which a large amount of material can exist in a stable orbit around the Sun. Why is it any more incredible than having another planet there? Ceres is big enough to be considered a planet and, in fact it is a so called "Dwarf planet". It's 940 kilometers across. Do...
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    The degree to which it is critical to the HPT to believe that the asteroid belt, comets and Pluto have their origin in Noah's Flood is the degree to which I reject the HPT. I simply do not believe it is possible. Nothing I've read in Brown's book or on this website has succeeded in convincing...
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    This is the only coherent response to such objections that I recall having ever seen. I can't say I'm convinced but that objection seems to have been answered.
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    No. Orbits are quite difficult to achieve accidentally. That's why all the theories require vast clouds of material to exist at the beginning of such systems. The vast majority of the material either coalesces into larger bodies or gets ejected out of the system and only that portion of the...
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    I am 1000% not confused at all about what the three-body problem is. The rest of your post is moot.
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    No! Not because I say so! Ever heard of the three-body problem? Try it with six bodies! The idea that such a system could arise as a result of a steam explosion on a planet some 3 billion plus miles away is NOT PLAUSIBLE! If Pluto was out there by itself, it still wouldn't be plausible. The...
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    But not in a manner that is convincing. It isn't mere hand waving but it just isn't plausible and it is an entirely unnecessary component to the overall theory. Indeed, if accepting the notion that Pluto and it's five moons (a system that is wildly complex and which couldn't exist apart from...
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    You know better. Instantly (nearly so) accelerating anything to 160 times the speed of sound would, by itself, rip the molecules into ions, never mind doing so through Earth's atmosphere. No it isn't. There is no logical necessity for any of this part of the theory. Saying it doesn't make it...
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    Paul was every bit as harsh in Galatians as some claim.

    I've discussed Mid-Acts Dispensationalism with Chat GPT many times and have had no difficulties whatsoever. Your post doesn't really explain what the issue you had was, by the way.
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    I failed to finish my thought on that last post but it doesn't matter. I do not deny that there is an argument to be made, it simply falls far short of proof. It, in fact, falls short of even being convincing, if you ask me. Obliterating large quantities of the Earth into ionized gas, doesn't a...
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    No it isn't vague. You're talking about energies and speeds that wouldn't just rip molecules apart but rip the electrons off the atoms. If Haley's comet came from Earth.
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    I'm pretty sure the point is that the amount of energy involved is well beyond anything that is plausible.
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    Finally, in response to pages 595-596, GPT gave the following response, which, once again, it's too dissimilar to the arguments I made before... This section is considerably more mathematically careful than most people would expect, but the core issue is still the same: A mathematically...
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    In response to pages 589-590, GPT's response mirrors some of my previous arguments... This section is trying to argue that the escaping “supercritical water” jets in the Hydroplate Theory would naturally behave like rocket exhaust and become extremely cold as they expanded into near-vacuum...
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    Is there any obvious evidence today for the biblical global Flood?

    Well, I'm not mathematician so I plugged a few of those pages into Chat GPT and had it analyze both the math and the argument. Here's what it said... "The problem is not simple arithmetic. The problem is the model’s assumptions. The argument assumes that long-term comet orbital perturbations...
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    Different Stuff

    Monarchy is an entirely different issue. You can have a capitalist economy in several types of government. A constitutional monarchy would work great with a capitalist economy. The question is only what the laws are. If the laws are just then there would be no conflict with a free market economy...
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