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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I've posted many video's so I'm not sure which one you're referring to. We all agree that the sun sets sooner from the beach than viewed from a high hill up above the beach. The difference is why. In the globe model we are told we are seeing farther over the curved earth. But that also implies...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Refraction/looming plus the horizon line at eye level causes the half sun to appear on a flat earth. This explanation is reasonable and coherent. Looking straight ahead the density of the atmosphere is more like a brick wall than chocolate milk. You can't see three feet in thick fog where I...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    How a small close sun works and why we cannot see it beyond the horizon on a flat earth 1. Perspective: Everything that moves across the sky appears to descend, even though it's parallel to the flat plane of the earth. The ground beneath our feet appears to rise up to our eye level, even...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    An orbit is a circle. You can circle a globe and a flat earth. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Amateur rocket team launches rocket to 73.1 miles --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I don't question the "existence of" satellites, the ISS, space shuttle, or anything else that is in low earth orbit. I question the moon landings. I question that anything is actually orbiting higher than high earth altitude. The highest ameture rocket went up about 70 miles. So that NASA...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If we don't see the curvature then we are not seeing a globe when we look down because globe means a curved earth. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    A globe that drops 8 inches per mile squared in all directions is not beyond our ability to see and test for. --Dave
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No, perspective it would not work with a curved earth. A landscape cannot be both falling downward and away from you and at the same time appear to be rising up ahead of you. --Dave
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The clouds that are not directly over our head tell us they do not curve downward... --Dave
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I made my definition clear and provided a pic to illustrate it. The ground beneath us appears to rise up to our eye level when it actually does not. Things in the sky over us seem to go downward when they actually do not. Do you deny this or not? --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    They're not my videos. I will be putting it in my own words. --Dave
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Only a small group of astronauts have supposedly ever personally seen the globe. --Dave
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    So, no Russians ever said we never went to the moon. Russia suggests America has NEVER landed on the moon and calls for 'an investigation into what really happened' "A Russian official has has cast doubt on the first moon landings and demanded an investigation into what really happened after...
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If the horizon is in the middle of the picture it's at eye level and the earth is flat. If the horizon is way down below the middle of the picture the earth is a globe. GoPro cameras that have a fisheye lens can produce a non existent curved horizon at any level. That's common undisputed...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Yes, there is an answer. I posted a video with the anwer. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If that were true then you would see the bottom of the clouds bend downward over the horizon. The bottoms of the clouds stay flat because they are over a flat plane. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You are fundamentally flawed in your thinking if you can't make the distinction between what is real and what is not, what is a reflection of something and what is the actual thing. Again, a reflection is not the real thing. We are not the mirrored image. We are outside of and distinct from...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    For a refracted image of Chicago to be seen with a superior mirage over it would require actually three different layers of air. 1. First layer is cold air over water. 2. The second layer would be warm air over the cold air. 3. What would be the third layer of air in order to get an upside...
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