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NO, DAVE, WATER IS NOT A SOLID! ICE is a solid. Water is a liquid. The earth is motionless relative to itself, but it is NOT MOTIONLESS relative to the sun or stars or planets. Things that move in the atmosphere see the earth as motionless, but that doesn't change the fact that the earth is...

Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave. So are you also asserting that the oceans are part of the earth as well? Water isn't a solid. It is. No, Dave. Now you're contradicting yourself. Things that move through the atmosphere are moving RELATIVE TO THE EARTH. The earth does not move relative...

You are asserting that the atmosphere is separate from the earth. That's not a negative. The onus is still on you.

You need to prove that it doesn't. You're the one bringing the challenge to the accepted standard, the onus is ON YOU to provide evidence for your challenge.

Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave.

So? You're basically agreeing with me with that statement. I said that God made earth's atmosphere different than all others, that it can support life. Would you like to retract your previous claim that the sun, stars, and moon and planets do not have atmospheres? An atmosphere is MADE of...

Sorry Dave, but you're trying to take a simple analogy to an extreme that it wasn't meant to fulfill. We are inside the atmosphere of a moving planet, Dave. Outside the atmosphere there isn't anything significant enough to "blow" against you.

:AMR: Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave. No, Dave, the atmosphere is part of the whole earth. SURE THEY ARE, DAVE! Why on earth would you say that they are not? The sun and all stars DO have an atmosphere. The moon DOES have an atmosphere. The planets DO have atmospheres. To what...

The earth does move. See how that works.

The atmosphere is part of the earth, Dave. It turns with the earth due to friction

First of all, I've pointed you to this page a number of times for a reason, Dave, learn how to use the [ QUOTE ] tags. No, Dave, I can't answer it because it's sheer stupidity. The atmosphere is part of the earth, and spins along with it. Relative to a point on the earth, the shell of the...

Um, no. It spins at around 1,000 mph. Not 10,000. It's no wonder you're having problems with this stuff, Dave. Where in the world did you get 10,000 mph for how fast the earth spins? Florida (north end is around 30 degrees North) is spinning around 900 mph (give or take 5). St. Louis...

Saying it doesn't make it so. If you think that, then why not just start a thread, instead of posting it here, because of what you said below? Start a new thread. Then why bother posting this post here? Why not start one yourself, you seem so adamant on posting about it here...

Hasty generalization. Also red herring, as that's not what this thread is about. Still irrational. What's amusing is that you're doing exactly what Dave has been doing the last few times he's posted, and you don't even seem to realize it. So far, the only ones here being irrational are the...

In other words, what you meant to say was "when dealing with Christians," desu yo ne? For someone who, apparently, is making himself out to be a rational thinker, you seem to have failed the first step of thinking rationally, and that is to know your (in this case, Hed's) opponent's...

In the Bible, we see in multiple instances where it takes time for angels to get from point A to point B. For example: So what do you think? Do you think that angels and demons use public transportation to get around the world easier? (Disclaimer: there is no real way to know for sure, so...

/r/Christianity? Yeah, that's a very liberal subreddit. I've had posts that use biblical arguments downvoted to oblivion. TOL isn't reddit. Follow the rules and you'll be fine. :thumb: If you were downvoted in that way, there's a good chance that what you said was good. So... Um... What...

I didn't say that. I said post something substantive. Linking to a YouTube video is not substantive. People are here on TOL to discuss ideas and beliefs with people, not watch conspiracy videos on YouTube. If you would like to post a YouTube link, please provide a summary of which parts of the...

And if you continue posting YouTube videos rather than contributing to the conversation in threads, I'm going to continue to give infractions.

Patrick, i know you just came back, but if you don't provide something substantive, I'm going to kick you from the thread.