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I've been on this forum for many years. Once upon a time, it was mostly polite and there were interesting discussions. It's turned into a self-congratulatory pub for people with extreme views, and a place to post absurd ideas. In short- I am likely to leave soon. Then you guys can enjoy...

I am getting tired of these "arguments". If you want to count this as a win, and boost your ego- please do. Self delusion is always fun.

and they would also be wrong.

So there's a bad food contractor- and that is the fault of the 'Democrats'. Do you take yourself seriously?

The main merit of the ideas you propose is their source- so what do you expect?

I've rather had it with being labelled 'weak minded' or even a 'moron' as an acceptable form of argument on this site.

Lockdowns have proven useful in many countries. There are many countries in a place called "Europe" where these have proven effective. It is a complicated business, as the conditions in each place are different, and how strict the lockdowns are differs in each place. There have been articles...

There is more to the world than Florida and New York. But hey- cherry pick your examples. whatever it takes.

1. Lockdowns work 2. Lockdowns are not the best way of dealing with the epidemic 3. This really isn't so difficult

China has been successful in controlling COVID, like it or not. Some of their methods are impossible in free societies. And yes they are a totalitarian country, and that is bad. Welcome to the complications of the real world. And no, I did not say it was 'impressive'- please put words into your...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56242617 Odd that the news report doesn't say that it was 'unbanned'. Still- the vaccine is gaining approvals over time. It's good that there's another alternate vaccine available!

Honestly, given your track record (e.g. snow, PEG...), and your inability to admit when you are wrong- I'm not even going to bother checking this claim. have a nice day!

here I agree- Taiwan did it right. Lockdowns are what you do when you failed to control the virus normally. A measure of last resort.

They are. And they did back a year ago. I know people there. It is not merely propaganda. And the reasoning is solid. Better to catch the outbreak when it is small.

Please read the article. Seriously. They locked down again because of a handful of cases. Hard to claim that their methods didn't work.

I was not suggesting that you do it Because China did it. Only presenting it as evidence that it works.

Where do you get your facts from?

Lockdowns do work. There is a time delay- it takes a few weeks to see the effect, so of course the number of cases peaked right after the lockdown started. China stopped the virus with a strict lockdown. As did New Zealand.

Words are important, but I'm done with this particular bit of foolishness.

Yes, you are right, you said "Partly because of the lockdowns." That bears explanation