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  1. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Okay. Fair enough. You have lost all reason. When all this is over and you finally realize who stupid this flat earth crap is let me know. I promise I wont mock you or tell you "I told you so".
  2. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This is a completely wrong diagram of what a vanishing point it. In the world of perspective a vanishing point is exactly what it says it is. A vanishing point. Items become so small in the distance that they "vanish". However, while an item that is parallel to another item might appear to...
  3. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You sound like you forgot what it looked like. :D Remembering when you did see the sun set.... did you see it set behind the line of the horizon?
  4. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Two points... 1. You are wrong. Perspective is a straightforward concept. 2. I'm not the one appealing to perspective. It was Dave who made the outrageous claim that due to perspective the sun (which is supposedly traveling parallel to the flat earth surface) can cross or "set" below the...
  5. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Descend in the distance maybe. But cross planes?? The sun disappears below the plane of the horizon. It doesn't merely descend... it crosses the plane of the horizon. It sinks behind the horizon at full size. This is something you can witness every single day with your own eyes! TWICE!! Once in...
  6. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Lets not get too far off the topic. Lets keep focused on the shape of our earth. :)
  7. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This is probably the best sentence in this entire thread. :up:
  8. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Dave.... We have already agreed that parallel items cannot cross. I am asking... how is it possible that the sun crosses the plane of the horizon if the sun is circling parallel to the earth surface?? How is that possible?
  9. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    YAY!!! We have reached an agreement on something. I'd call that a breakthrough. Lets move forward. So... we agree parallel lines never cross. And therefore with the sun should never cross the horizon since the sun is circling above us parallel to the plane of the horizon (based on the flat...
  10. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You don't know if parallel lines would ever appear to cross??? Really? How would that even be theoretically possible? I thought for sure we could have some form of agreement on something. Let me start a bit further back then. I'm sure we agree on this..... In geometry terms.... do parallel...
  11. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Dave, Patrick.... We can all agree and observe that when looking at parallel lines (like train tracks) the lines appear to converge as they move into the distance due to perspective. But could perspective ever cause parallel lines to cross each other? Please answer YES or NO and then you can...
  12. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Dave you know that is a lie. You know that as ships sail into the distance the bottom portion of the ship is obscured by the horizon line. There are literally a million pictures and videos as well as our own personal experiences to prove this to be the case. Your romance with this asinine...
  13. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    That doesn't answer my question. You posted a pic showing the sun not much higher than the clouds. Therefore I asked... why then do we not see the sun closer to us when we fly above the clouds??
  14. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Good point. After all... with the flat earth model as the sun moves away from us it must get so small that we can't even see the light emanating from it.
  15. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Dave... if the earth is flat and the sun is merely circling overhead it would never set. We have been down this path already with you. If the earth is flat and sun is circling overhead it might get smaller as it moves away from us but it could never set below the horizon because it's traveling...
  16. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Question.... if that image were accurate why can't we see the sun close-up when we fly above the clouds? When we fly on commercial airlines we never pass by the sun or worse yet run into it. When we fly on a commercial airline above the clouds we see the sun the same way we see it here on the...
  17. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Patrick give me an answer in your own words..... If the trade winds are what allow a commercial jetliner to fly well over the speed of sound to make it from Sydney Australia to Santiago Chile in 12 hours (flying on a flat earth model the plane would need to be at about 1,300MPH) what explains...
  18. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Well... it was pretty easy. But thanks for the acknowledgement. :) At the very least you could give me credit for using my own words instead of posting youtube videos to make my point.
  19. Nathon Detroit

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    By the way.... even if commercial jetliners could fly at 900mph that wouldn't account for the vast distance that taking that suggested flight path would require to make in the time that those flights do on a daily basis. These videos are complete rubbish. Yet you buy this crap??
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