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    a look at Jeremiah 7:21-8:3

    This is demonstrably not true: [Mar 8:34 KJV] 34 And when he had called the people [unto him] with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. That verse is a mere 5 verses earlier than Mark 9:1, and is the...
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    a look at Jeremiah 7:21-8:3

    It's a good list (and thanks for compiling), but I think some don't apply. For instance: 1 - God Hopes His Prophecies of Judgment will Fail This one doesn't apply, because if Christ was talking about judgment of something bad the people did, He expressed it in terms that were favorable, where...
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    a look at Jeremiah 7:21-8:3

    Then let me repeat it again with some additional points. Jesus' prophecy was about His kingdom, right? Here's the verse we're talking about: [Mar 9:1 KJV] 1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have...
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    a look at Jeremiah 7:21-8:3

    If you look closely, you will see that the recorded words on the Mount are slightly different from what Peter wrote. On the Mount God said "This is my beloved Son. Hear Him", according to the 2 Gospel accounts that recorded it. So the confusion is somewhat expected. Forgotten. Worse, it was 6...
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    On the omniscience of God

    Interesting. "Pharaoh" is supposedly a Hebrew word for "palace". So maybe more like "Caesar". But since "Benhadad" denotes separated kings, not necessarily related to each other, it seems less like a dynasty and more like a reference to the power of the god, like "Amen-hotep" or the...
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    a look at Jeremiah 7:21-8:3

    You probably ought to reread the accounts. Here's an excerpt from Mark: Mark 9:1 — And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power. 2. And after six days Jesus taketh...
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    a look at Jeremiah 7:21-8:3

    Some people deal with it the way Peter did: [2Pe 1:16-17 KJV] 16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there...
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    On the omniscience of God

    Agreed. Elijah was the one sent to anoint Hazael, but also to anoint Jehu. We aren't told he anointed either. Elisha had an unnamed "child of the prophets" anoint Jehu, and it seems he was going to do the same to Hazael, I guess, but it is never explicitly stated that Hazael was anointed...
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    On the omniscience of God

    But not only "divine will and purpose". This from American Heritage Dictionary 2. A prediction of the future, made under divine inspiration. However, I think there are reasons to believe God is bringing grief to the northern 10 tribes through the Syrians. Add this one: [1Ki 20:42 KJV] 42 And...
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    On the omniscience of God

    Yes, I agree with all that. Likely Hazael already was scheming to take over the throne. And at least we could also say whether God had plans for anyone to stop Hazael (no, He didn't). God also was going to allow Syria to invade Israel (northern 10 tribes) because their king was so bad. So it...
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    On the omniscience of God

    Elisha had no need to tell Hazael what he would do, knowing also it would spur him to act sooner. The fact that he did seems to indicate it was bringing about God's plan in some way. Hazael's words to Bennie make sense, as that answered the question he was asked. No sense in alerting the king...
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    On the omniscience of God

    The Lord revealed what Hazael will do in the future? We don't think of the future that way. Is the Lord merely searching his heart?
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    On the omniscience of God

    What do you all think about this passage: 2 Kings 8:7-15 KJV — And Elisha came to Damascus; and Benhadad the king of Syria was sick; and it was told him, saying, The man of God is come hither. And the king said unto Hazael, Take a present in thine hand, and go, meet the man of God, and enquire...
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    Our biological evidence of creation and the seventh day Sabbath

    Christians may not have a sabbath day requirement, but we still rest from our works in the grace of Jesus Christ.
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    On the omniscience of God

    @Lon I reread my post and have to qualify, based on conversations I've had with Calvinists. It's not "without regard to what they themselves will decide later", but "God has already decided what they will decide later." This may sound like a caricature, but it something most Calvinists will...
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    On the omniscience of God

    Understanding Calvin's context is important, no doubt. That's why I pointed to John Piper. He explains things well and patiently, but when it comes down to it, If your theology has God deciding both what you will do with the gospel and what your punishment will be for doing it, it doesn't paint...
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    On the omniscience of God

    yeah, I hate giving the right hand of fellowship to those "Snake-handers".
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    On the omniscience of God

    Can we turn the question around? What things do you think make one a Calvinist? To me, the answer is in TULIP. If you agree with all 5 points, you're a Calvinist, but if you caveat them all away from what Calvin taught, you're not. But the most important single thing is that certain people are...
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    On the omniscience of God

    I grew up in Southern Baptist Churches, and my dad was a pastor. He was definitely not a Calvinist. I recently visited a Southern Baptist church where the preacher said, "If you're coming to this church to try to persuade us of Calvinism, you need to leave." But there are definitely some around.
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    On the omniscience of God

    Which letters still need some work? Maybe we need a thread to discuss TULIP again. So far, you've agreed that the L and the I are caveated, at least. Most Calvinists have leaned away from Total Depravity toward Total Inability, so that one's caveated for us. Perseverance of the Saints can only...
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