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Oops. I never responded. Good post, by the way. I appreciate that you give scripture and explain why you think that scripture applies. You've suggested a way it might be possible for the language to allow for multiple seas, but I don't think it does. If I own multiple homes, and my family is...

But what does that have do with what I wrote?

Just don't ask her how to spell "centaur".

Is God in here? Everybody else has to get a permit (read the sign).

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Sure. Can you tell me why you think that's pertinent?

One more thought. John the Baptist was in two parts, the head, given to the daughter of Herodias, who then gave it to Herodias, and the headless body. Nobody in Herod's court wanted the body, but someone had already claimed the head. Thus, the scripture gives additional details of the condition...

I'm here to discuss things to find out truth. I hope to provide truth as well, when I can. Thus, I am here to debate and not just to preach without anyone questioning my doctrine. If you are only here to preach, you shouldn't stick around. Your doctrine should be accountable to God's word, like...

Go look it up, I've shared it with you before. No, not a dichotomy that identifies a bodiless soul. Sure it was. But the reference is to "He", not "his body". So the identity follows the body, not the soul. When there's no life, "he" is dead. If the identification is with the soul, then "he"...

The only remaining option is to speak without anyone ever questioning one's doctrine, meaning either "I'm always right," or "everybody's right." Neither of those concepts are aiming at finding truth.

Gen 2 says a soul is made up of an inanimate body animated by a breath from God. If either part is missing, or not functioning, the person is dead. Thus, a soul without a body is, well, nothing. Yes. Him--not just His body. You've given the right scripture. Please show me where it says "His...

Why do you start with the premise that God is omnipresent? Is it a necessary attribute of God? Is it biblically justified? I'm not sure it is.

Right! And you don't find truth by first deciding what you believe, and then reading it into the scriptures.

@Ps82 (and @Bladerunner). It works better, and doesn't take as long, if you reply to the post from the link at the bottom of the post, then hit RETURN key at any point where you want to comment, assuming you are using the formatted editor.

Your response was also very clear and thorough in terms of explanation. But I'm hoping we can work through this using scripture to back up our assertions. I'll respond more later, when I have time.

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The bible says "He" was buried, not "His body" was buried Why do you say it was a non earthly place? Jesus went to Hades. Hades is sometimes translated as "grave". Graves are the epitome of earthly. People? It doesn't say "people". It says "spirits". It doesn't even say "spirits of", just...

The issue that you're still not willing to address is that you have made your own moral code and are judging God by it. You've decided that the literal reading of the torment passages is impossible because you've defined them as sadistic. And now you're saying God's word, if not reinterpreted...

Here's what you said about the scriptures when you started this thread: In that statement, you admit that the Bible contains statements about eternal torment, but you say it isn't literal. You repeated your assertion in a later post: So you admit that scriptures teach eternal torment, but you...

Yes, that's a definition of "soul" that allows for mortality of the soul, so you've shown my point to be possible. Can you show any passage in the bible that says the opposite--that the soul is immortal?