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Great point. And Paul was more than explicit about Jesus being the Creator God.

Paul is addressing the fact that salvation, the kingdom, and the promises have always been for the Jews. What happened when Jesus and the Apostles came upon gentiles? They were ignored...with a very few exceptions. After the sheet incident, gentiles were to be included. Not into the body of...

Paul had constant communication with the Risen Son of God.

Paul was speaking as someone under the law...who was still carnal. The law of sin and death. That is not the present Paul who can do all things though Christ. If you go on you'll see this. Romans 8:2-4 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin...

Even that spirit baptism that Peter saw was not about being indwelt by the Holy Spirit. It was only about the Holy Spirit coming upon people like days of old. That was totally different than being indwelt and sealed by the Spirit upon our belief in Paul's gospel.

Exactly, and that's the reason Christ agreed to be baptized...to fulfill all righteousness of the LAW concerning His priesthood. These continual "washings" (water baptism) were always for the Jews as part of the law. We are no longer under the law.

What? It's not believe and be circumcised -- believe and repent --believe and be baptized -- believe and confess your sins ---believe and tithe ten percent --- believe and forgive your enemies -- believe and sell all you have -- believe and endure to the end? We're to add NOTHING to the...

In the portion of scripture we're discussing, Romans 9-11, Paul is talking about Israel, and the gentiles he mentions are those like Cornelius who were brought in under Peter's teaching to the Jews.

It wouldn't be the first time.

Ah, I think the chances are on my side.

Stop with your childish accusations about "kool aid". Paul's curses were upon those who preached any other gospel to his saved by grace believers. That really shouldn't be that hard to understand. Paul's believers were to add NOTHING to the work on the cross. Guess you didn't notice that...

Just let Him buy you, and will understand why that statement is so silly.

Yes, I know. But that letter to Hebrews is directed to the Jews....not the body of Christ.

Which is losing salvation. Just admit it.

Different situations in different dispensations.

Deut. 6:25 And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us. Yes, this is where they came from....Peter and the rest of the Jews. And we can watch how that changed for them. Peter was given the vision that the...

More so. Paul is talking to Cornelius and others who were "grafted in" when he says this. He is not speaking to the body of Christ here, but to those gentiles that believed the gospel of the kingdom. Thanks to your link, RD, it all makes sense to me now. Paul "magnifies" his office by...

Of course they do, but that is not all they believe. (The Messiah part is not required for the body of Christ). They believe they are justified by the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Since the body of Christ is in heavenly places, and the twelve apostles will be judging in the Kingdom on earth, I don't see how he could be in both. Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall...

Well, they came to Christ through Israel...the preaching of the Kingdom that Jesus was the Son of God and the Messiah.