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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    Neanderthal genes are found in Caucasian Homo sapiens in small percentage. Neanderthals are stronger and bigger brained than Homo sapiens and some speculate that the two species were contemporaneous. I believe God, the Great scientist was trying out all the different Homo species before 6000...
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    Invisible water vapour cannot water plants. Only when it becomes visible can plants take it up. So we know it was not invisible. You said " What if the right English translation is more accurately "invisible water vapor?"----then you're ... well your argument is over." By the same token...
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    So just as on Day 4 God appoints the heavenly bodies for signs and holy day seasons, likewise on Day 7 God appoints the 7th day to be a Sabbath for man to rest. It is not as if there had not been sun, moon, stars and days when Neanderthals and Homo habilis lived previously on earth, it's just...
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    When Christians today see a rainbow anywhere (except while the kids are playing under the lawn sprinkler) they are reminded of God's promise. You are the first one I know who only accepts a bow in the cloud. Do you accept one in the sky such as the one below?
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    If all the objects were stationary relative to one another, they would have the same Z value. But because they are moving, some towards earth (decreasing the Z value) and away from earth (increasing the Z value) that is why the Z value alone cannot be used to determine distance. But the...
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    Gen 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. You don't need rain, you just need a mist and with the sun behind your back you can see a rainbow.
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    Right Divider, I want to commend you on both your science and your theology. You took modern science (Edwin Hubble 1920) which shows the universe is expanding and you melded it with scriptures showing that God stretches out the heavens. I.e. you let scientific truth add to Biblical truth...
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    iouae said: Even Day 4 of creation was God simply saying that the already present heavenly bodies are for signs and seasons just as resting on the Sabbath forever set in place the 7 day week. If one accepts that Gen 1 is chronological then that is exactly what God says since in Gen 1:1 God...
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    Science has a lot to say to verify that God stretches out the heavens. It is seen in the red shift or Doppler effect and is a well known phenomenon that the more distant a galaxy, the more red shifted its light. Light which has travelled longer has more time to be stretched out or made redder...
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    Precisely my point that as Ex 20:11 says that in 6 days the Lord made the heavens (our sky and atmosphere), the sea (our earth's sea) and the earth (our earth). Genesis 1 is describing how God made this iteration and biome science calls the Holocene. It says nothing about anything outside...
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    On day 1 of the recreation week described in Genesis 1 God creates light. But if we look at Genesis 1:1-2 an earth exists even before day 1 and the creation of light. Thus by sheer logic there has to have been an earth that predates the 7 days described in Genesis 1. True, the earth is...
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    Getting back on topic...😊... When we look at the moon we see it as it was 1.3 seconds ago. Likewise the sun, as it was 8 minutes ago. The closest star, as it was a year ago, the faintest star visible to the naked eye, as it was 6000 years ago. The moment we point a telescope at a black...
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    Where does the Bible teach that the earth is billions of years old?

    Genesis 1:1 is not speaking of the beginning beginning or absolute first beginning. Thus debating whether this beginning occurred 6000 years ago or 13.75 billion years ago is not addressed by Genesis 1. In fact a careful scrutiny of the Hebrew words used in Gen 1:1 is useful. "Bereshit" or...
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    Does God forget our sins, and if so how?

    Doing a concordance search n the word "forget" I could not find a scripture saying God forgives and forgets sins. Can you find a scripture saying God forgets anything, and if so the question is how a God with a perfect memory could forget anything.
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    Predestination or Planned Parenting on the Part of God

    Predestination comes from the Greek word "proorizō" or Strong's 4309. In every single case this word is used it applies ONLY to the Planned Parenting on the Part of God. In other words, the word is only used in the context of when God speaks about how He planned to have children, from way back...
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    The goodness and SEVERITY of God

    Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. We all love the goodness of God. We love it when God blesses us, and extends His grace towards us. We...
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    God - The Great Scientist

    God is the "Great Scientist". This is a concept easy to understand for those whose life and work is involved with the true sciences. In science we use scientific methods to experiment and learn and grow, till we attain better results. It is anathema for most Christians to entertain (even for a...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Well at least from one point of view, we have flat earthers conceding that the earth is a circle. Now we only have one dimension left to work on :)
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I thought that flat earth's got their belief from the Bible. But the Bible speaks of the circle of the earth. Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a...
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    Live like you DON'T know the day and the hour

    I heard an excellent sermon by Wayne Malcolm (TBN in Africa) on why we should live like we don't know the day and the hour of Christ's return. He started out in Jer 29 telling how God had taken Israel into Babylonian captivity, and Jeremiah told the Israelites they would be there for 70 years...
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