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Indeed, if I were in a home that had the furnace set to 10,000 degrees Celsius, I would at least hope for a cup of iced tea. In spite of the frequently being asked about the allegorical or symbolic meaning of the scientifically fanciful situation described in the first few verses of Gen 1, I...

To answer that I would have to reverse-engineer whatever human-controlled textual influences over the last several millennia might have altered what God really said into the text we read today. I am not a scholar on ancient languages, nor am I privy to what caused errors that in fact have been...

I think you are asking about what I said in my second paragraph. If not, please ping me again. The point I was leading to was that by applying pretty-well established laws of thermodynamics and quantum physics, we find that significant levels of conversions of photons to matter and vv, requires...

Until such a time as I think you will at least respect and give meaningful answers to the points I have already made, I elect to reserve my future posts for those who do choose to consider and give cogent answer to other’s posts. If indeed you sincerely feel that responding with “irrelevant” is...

Ok, pardon me for taking the time to trying to clearly elucidate my concerns about saying God authored the Bible. Since you are trivially dismissive of such efforts on my part, I will limit my responses to only other posters who may actually respond in a more mature way.

Is there any place in the world where you can show me an original manuscript authored by God? On stone, parchment, animal skin, anything? If not, then in reality what we have is what humans wrote down. Notice that in my statement you are responding to I said “in effect”, by which I was...

OK, “toledoth” is not a word I recall ever coming across before. Probably because I have not spent much time in studying the background of the ancient religious texts that disparate religions depend on. And I don’t see that toledoth does much to clarify the apparent confusion arising from the...

Thanks, I will try to listen to these (and the preceding 2 programs as well) when I get enough spare time (hopefully, within a few days). BTW, challenges to currently prevailing scientific ideas are actually a good thing. In science an idea is accorded the rather elevated title of theory when...

Genesis 2:4 says it (Genesis 2:4???) is an account of history?

What says what is history?

Again I express my thanks for a polite and on-topic reply. But as I expressed in my first posting (post 206) when possible I try to measure ideas expressed against what I understand science to say on the subject. So when you say “it fits well enough with … secular …descriptions”, I question...

One more brief contribution to the “what is light” discussion that has appeared in several posts. The daylight definition of light that I understand early Genesis 1 to refer to actually is only satisfied by photons within a very narrow set of frequencies (or wavelengths). If physics is right...

Dunno. But if the Bible was (in effect) authored by God, and is crucial for us to understand, then I would surely hope God is a competent enough author that I can start on page 1, understand it, and then page 2, etc. This is a Gen 1 thread, remember?

In this thread the flow of comments that started with Stripe’s mention of the CMB soon led into discussions about light and darkness which then led to discussions about what it means to say God is light. I thought the purpose of this thread was to examine the creation account as presented in...

Thanks, Derf. But alas, I am not sure that advanced my understanding. If God separated the light and the darkness, that implies the light and darkness were not separated before He did that. Can you enlighten me on what non-separated light and darkness is, or looks like? Since light is just a...

I enter this thread openly admitting that my limited understanding of science gives me concern about how literal Genesis 1 is. As to the OP, I see several things I honestly do not understand in Genesis 1. I may itemize some of those in a later post. But first I want to comment on something...