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He didn't claim any title. The miracles were His "fruit". Knew what? Nice try, but you fail to give any scripture to prove what you say. Yeah, you're unable to see the difference between what Jesus taught when He walked among us and what the ascended LORD revealed to Paul, so your analogy...

They can't show it because the blood had not yet been shed. Lots and lots of vain babbling going on, though, isn't there?

LOL You blenderizers crack me up.

Yep, the mysteries. They can't get away from the mysteries. It's interesting, because when Paul first got saved, he immediately started preaching Jesus Christ the prophesied Messiah. Suddenly going from zealous of the law (overly zealous some would say) to being zealous for Jesus Christ...

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. You're playing fast and loose with the scripture there. What's up with that? Trying to mix oil and...

Jesus was speaking for our sake. The apostles had no understanding of what Jesus said. It was hid from them. Thus, they were not preaching the dbr., and they didn't even understand that the tomb was empty. Luke 18: 31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up...

Do you know that the gospel of the kingdom that Jesus and the Apostles preached was an earthly one?

Since I said neither of those things, I'm quite sure your imagination is enough for both of us.

See all the problems that can arise when you add one simple thing to the gospel? Like, confess with your mouth. In the same way, when you leave out the fact that salvation is a gift you cannot earn, you're missing an essential. The very fact that we're to have faith in Christ's death...

I'm merely pointing out what scripture makes clear....when it's rightly divided. "Picking nits" is what's required when studying the word of God. That grunt work is to be done by members of the body. There are no IF's in the grace of God. IF you confess with your mouth puts a requirement...

It's false because it's a figment of your imagination. You must admit, your imagination usually gets the better of you.

Yes, Jesus was filled with grace and His grace was given to the apostles. Even Noah received grace from God. Acts 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

And even then it was not what the ascended Lord revealed to Paul.

Yep, and when Jesus walked among us, He gave a better understanding of the Law, and how it would be in the Kingdom. After He ascended into heaven, He appeared to Paul and gave him the gospel of grace. Law first when He walked among us, and grace after His work on the cross.

See? You can't even understand what I've said. The fact that you make such claims about what I say, proves you are clueless about what I said.

You're just about to lose all the respect I had for you, Derf. The fact is....you are so used to blenderizing the scripture that you can't tell the difference between law and grace.

So Peter and the twelve would be included in that remnant. Right? As are all those believers in the Jerusalem church.

I know it, and the scripture prove me right.

Derf will go to any lengths to subvert Paul's gospel. It's no wonder Paul says people who add to his gospel shall be accursed. Derf is trying to add the entire Kingdom gospel ....which was law....onto the gospel of grace. That's what we're facing in these last days.

You accused me of drinking the kool aid. That is a false accusation.