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“Who is this that obscures my plans with words without knowledge? Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me. “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring...

Thanks for the welcome, Derf, grumix and Rusha. I appreciate it.

As you wish, but what about Genesis 2:4 which says creation was one day?

That's good reasoning from the scriptures. I'm not sure I agree. He asked, what had Cain done. We are talking about omniscience which would suggest God had known what he had done before he had seen or heard anything. What I'm suggesting is that Jehovah can get to know anything he wishes to...

No, it's only half. There is also afternoon and night. Besides, as my post pointed out, the term day is used in three different ways in the creation account, in just 2 verses. (Gen. 1:5; 2:4) As six days, as 1 day and as the daylight only. Just like we use the term day. I also gave several...

As I pointed out in my earlier post the angels applauded the creation as it was taking place, and the term day can mean any given period of time within a narrative.

The Bible begins with the creation of the universe but the angels existed prior to that in heaven, and besides, man wasn't created until the end of the creation period. You can't logically make the assumption that earth and the universe is only as old as man, don't you think? Indeed.

Oh, my, no. I wouldn't suggest any of that. It wasn't destroyed by anyone. It never will be. God created the Earth to last forever and for mankind to live forever in peace upon it. I only suggest there was an indeterminate period of time - quite possibly a great deal of time - between the...

Agreed. Of humanity. Not of the universe or earth. You are exactly right. I misspoke. As John Cleese said, we need to emphasize the fact that science is a method of investigation, not a belief system. It, like theology and Biblical interpretation are the imperfect work of mankind.

Hey, yo. That's an interesting avatar you've got there. You got kin from the hills as I do?

Well, if the Bible didn't say it and you don't buy into the "scientific analysis" how is it that you determine the earth not to be billions of years old? You weren't there. I've never put much value in science. Even before I became a believer I thought the theory of Evolution was nonsense, but...

I never said that you said it did.

There are several problems there. First, the ancient Hebrew verb had two states; the perfect indicating completed action and the imperfect which indicated continuous or incomplete action. At Genesis 1:1 the word bara, translated as created, is in the perfect state, which means that at this point...

It is my understanding that nowhere in the Bible can the age of the heavens (universe) or Earth be determined.

In my opinion the primary reason is group think, appeal to authority and ignorance. They don't want to look stupid. Ultimately they are Christian only in name for social, cultural and traditional reasons. Their true god isn't the grand creator Jehovah God. Anaximander, Anaxagoras, Empedocles and...

Thanks, I look forward to our possible discussion.

Thanks for the welcome. I've read the rules and see no problem there. I've spent over a quarter of a century on atheist online forums debating the Bible and they can be extremely ambiguous regarding their rules and tolerance or lack thereof. Hopefully that isn't the case with Christian forums...

Hello, everyone. My name is David and I enjoy Biblical discussion and debate. Though I've never been a part of any organized religion and never will be, I am a believer in the Bible. I guess you could say that my beliefs are very similar to that of the Jehovah's Witnesses, but again, I'm not one...

Well, now this is interesting. In context I'm not sure if I agree or not. We can't firmly establish if God is infinite; we can't really establish that we are finite, given the apostate adoption of the immortal soul (Ezekiel 18:4; Matthew 10:28) from Greek philosophy (Socrates), but then we can't...

Does the uninspired translation of the infallible word present the idea of the omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient God? That depends upon your strictness in observing what those things are. An omnivore doesn't eat everything in the strictest sense of the word. The concept of an omnipresent...