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arial Arent you able to keep up with what I asked you at first ? Read post 29 again

Clay Curtis writes in his excellent sermon: What did Christ do for us when we were yet sinners, Christ justified us by his blood—v10—being now justified by his blood--To be justified is to be pardoned of all sin and made perfectly righteous before God through the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ...

arial You are attempting to explain away a vital truth

Four Aspects of Justification by Don Fortner “Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.” (Romans 5:18) The Lord Jesus Christ took upon himself our nature...

You are attempting to explain away truth. Rom 5:10 clearly states that they were reconciled to God by Christs death while being enemies.

arial Yes indeed, but before they became a believer and while being enemies/unbeliever. Read Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. One is not a believer while being an enemy.

So I see you dont believe that Christs death alone reconciled them He died for to God. But thats what scripture declares Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

ariel What about before Faith ? Are those Christ died for reconciled to God by His death before they believe ?

Article 11: Election Unchangeable Just as God is most wise, unchangeable, all-knowing, and almighty, so the election made by him can neither be suspended nor altered, revoked, or annulled; neither can God’s chosen ones be cast off, nor their number reduced.

Article 10: Election Based on God’s Good Pleasure But the cause of this undeserved election is exclusively the good pleasure of God. This does not involve God’s choosing certain human qualities or actions from among all those possible as a condition of salvation, but rather involves adopting...

Article 9: Election Not Based on Foreseen Faith This same election took place, not on the basis of foreseen faith, of the obedience of faith, of holiness, or of any other good quality and disposition, as though it were based on a prerequisite cause or condition in the person to be chosen, but...

markes misrepresentation of post Where was anything stated in the article about God being taken by surprise ?

Article 8: A Single Decree of Election This election is not of many kinds, but one and the same for all who were to be saved in the Old and the New Testament. For Scripture declares that there is a single good pleasure, purpose, and plan of God’s will, by which he chose us from eternity both to...

The canons of dort presentation of election: Article 7: Election Election is God’s unchangeable purpose by which he did the following: Before the foundation of the world, by sheer grace, according to the free good pleasure of his will, God chose in Christ to salvation a definite number of...

Propitiation is the just ground whereby all for whom Christ propitiated God for, shall live [spiritually] 1 Jn 4:9-10 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live[spiritually] through him. 10 Herein is love...

Its worth repeating myself since you repeat yourself. You have said you can do things in the flesh, as an unregenerate that pleases God, whereas Gods word says Rom 8:8 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

You have confidence in the flesh as well. Rom 8:8 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Notice it says they that are in the flesh CANNOT please God. Do you think God is pleased when a person humbles themselves ?

Is Universal Atonement True? (1) A number of readers have asked about the extent or purpose of the atonement, that is, For whom did Christ die? This question is especially important because many evangelicals today believe that Jesus shed His blood for everyone head for head excluding no one...

Again you have a much confidence in the flesh. Rom 8:8 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Exactly, and its the same with believers in Christ today, the Church, the seed of Abraham, the Children of promise as was Isaac Gal 4:28 28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. So the Church is Israel The brethren Paul referred to here is the Body of Christ, those whom...