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NO, salvation is the cause of obedience...

I think the two English definitions of belief, one as faith (the unproven hope of Heb 11:1 ) and the other as trust in proven things (ie, I believe the sun will rise tomorrow.) makes for an often deliberate confusion.

An excellent gift from GOD through an increase of faith. A word study of Heb 11:1 is also enlightening, especially the nuances of the word the KJV chose to render as evidence which is acceptable but a bit of English archaic in this instance. Biblehub and Strong's Concordance are very useful.

As a Trinitarian I cannot accept this. GOD is love and love without an object to love is meaningless, self love and narcissistic.. To be eternally loving there had to be an eternal object of love, at least one... Father has nothing to do with creation of the Son but with the attitude, pov and...

the pagans like to add: from eternity past to eternity future, a good bit of logic if you don't know GOD which the Church accepted even though it conflicts directly with HIS other attributes of lovinging, righteous justice. IF this definition of omniscience is true, all HE had to do to keep...

Ding ding!! This line gets the prize for telling the story the most wrong!! Such twisting seldom seen before. ...and I am a Canadian who lotha the Liberals and Trudeau.

I have never said that the verse is a proof verse forcing any belief, just that it was a possible interpretation. When so many possibles exist, the probable can seem clearer. If Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, can be discounted on face value, anything can be...

All this is true but it does not address the fact that Job 38:7 seems to claim that ALL the Sons of GOD (even the disinherited ones, Deuteronomy 32:5) saw the creation of the physical universe, that is, if you are a Son of GOD then you were there singing HIS praises with the rest of us.

In light of the very real possibility of both Satan and Job having chosen rebellion to GOD before they were flung into the earth and Job sown, (not created) into the world, Matt 13:36-39, the scenario could be based upon their sinfulness. Iow, though their FATES were self chosen by their free...

Spirits cannot die like a body can. By becoming a soul in a body, Adam brought death to all sinners, not sin: the serpent had already fallen when ALL was pronounced good and he sinned before Adam ate by tempting Eve, then Eve sinned by believing the serpent and tempting Adam who, on earth...

That this can be believed at the same time by the same person who believes GOD is love is amazing to me. The consequences of sin is death, ie, all death is for personal sin, not Adam's sin: Jeremiah 31:30 Instead, everyone will die for their own sin

I do not remember seeing that in the same way I don't remember my earliest years of human life. But that is what I've been told. I see the possibility that the sinful elect were were flung here to Sheol in the centre of the earth before Satan and the demons but the writings are unclear on such...

ImCo, of course He was there, we all were - He as our creator and we as ALL of His creation. We all experienced making the choice to put our faith in HIS claims to be our GOD and that the Son was the only solution to sinfulness or put our faith in the idea that HE was a liar and a false god...

Consider that the last event in the recorded relationship between YHWH and HIS creation is the Marriage of the Lamb to the holy Church. HIS story doesn't end with the final judgment but with the marriage, that inner psychological event inside us that is the fulfillment of earthly marriage...

If evil has been sequestered on earth by the imprisonment of satan's angels and the sinful elect, the good seed, to this planet, there is no reason to destroy more than earth or this solar system... I also wonder about the extravagance of creation and suspect it will be used for more than just...

But Rom 5:12 does not say that, does it...Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned. It says death comes to all men for all men are sinners. In other words, only sinners are sown, planted into this...

The opinion that one born of GOD cannot sin would seem to contradict the direct meaning of Heb 12:5-11 which contends that we are trained in righteousness by a harsh discipline against our sins akin to being scourged with the cat of nine tails. And this blessing is reserved for HIS beloved...

I have never claimed that the term sons of GOD has never referred to angels but that angel is an interpretation of the scripture not a reporting of what was written...ALL the bene elohim, not malek, angel...a bit of eisegesis as it were that means the interpretation that it can refer to all HIS...

Indeed I agree with this although when we were singing GOD's praise when we saw the creation of the physical universe, Job 38:7, I doubt if we could be called mankind yet. Mankind is what we are called after our fall into sinfulness when we are sown, ie planted, not created, into this world...

Sinful before eating... First: the law is NOT given to the righteous or the innocent but to lawbreakers to convict them of their sin: 1 Timothy 1:9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers etc... Romans 3:20... rather, through the law we become conscious of...