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Belief in flat Earth "Several pre-Socratic philosophers believed that the world was flat: Thales (c. 550 BC) according to several sources, and Leucippus (c. 440 BC) and Democritus (c. 460–370 BC) according to Aristotle." "Thales thought the Earth floated in water like a log. It has been argued...

I already answered this. You notice that on the moon there's no trees, no ocean or lakes, no life. The earth is not like the moon because it has trees, oceans and lakes, and life. The earth must not be a sphere. --Dave

I'm using the immovable earth to show that everything else is moving. --Dave

Motionless is the antithesis of motion. Can't have one without the other is basic logic. And logic is what you have lost. "The earth is God's immovable reference point for everything else in the cosmos that is in motion."--DFT Dave I think I'll copyrite this. You all can quote me. --Dave

Here again is the quote from Wiki along with the rest of the quote I had original posted. You quoted this "No educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat", and this "A round earth appears at least as early as the...

I agree with you, but in this case our perceptions contradict reality. This is different than saying there are other things in reality we do not perceive. --Dave

I want you to know I watched the video. It's getting late and I have to get up early for work, but I will watch it again and ask you some questions about your work and the satellite. --Dave

The greater force will over come the lesser ones. Molecules being pulled by gravity at 700 mph in the direction of earth's spin is senseless. Someone said we must image we are in a rocket ship travelling through space. I agree. Only a solid dome covering the whole earth like the hull of a...

Motionless is the antithesis of motion. Can't have one without the other. The earth is God's immovable reference point for everything else in the cosmos that is in motion. This is a proposition, not a proof. --Dave

At least we have some agreement. I like that. "If" the earth is flat and covered by a dome then everything we have been told about the nature, size, and distance of stars is wrong. That's not to say they are merely a projection but Genesis says they are made to give light. God cannot be a...

That you think you "destroy my arguments" makes me laugh. Let me just show you how illiterate you can be. Myth of the flat Earth "The myth of the flat Earth is a modern misconception that Earth was believed to be flat rather than spherical by scholars and the educated during the Middle Ages in...

A plane moving at 700 mph and less is no match for a gravitational pull that moves the atmosphere at a speed of over 1000 mph in one direction. --Dave

We must establish a stationary reference point is what you mean. Something in motion is meaningless without the existence of something that is not in motion. The earth is God's immovable reference point for everything else in the cosmos that is in motion. --Dave

See my answer to JudgeRightly --Dave

You should answer my whole point instead of breaking it up. First I did not say that there was no atmosphere on heavenly bodies, I said they have no atmosphere to support life. The question I was answering was, if the sun, moon, and stars are a globe or ball, then why not the earth. My answer...

I want to thank you for all your great posts. The spinning globe certainly has a number of inconsistencies that defy logic. Your plane circling Dallas was a good example for a motionless earth. Why is Dallas not moving away from the circling plane? Planes are said not to be effected by the...

It does indeed seem inconsistent to believe in the heliocentric universe without the "big bang" and the subsequent "evolution of the cosmos" that is followed by the "evolution of biology and man". Sadly, to many "Evangelical" Christian theologians and apologists today are turning to evolution...

But you can't establish a speed of 100 miles an hour without the road. You have no reference point to say the cars are traveling at 100 miles and hour without the road. Relative "only" to each other they are not traveling at 200 miles per hour or at any knowable speed. Two cars passing each...

Yes, I have ignored your posts. My apology. You certainly have been respectful. This thread has not flowed from a beginning point toward a goal and therefore has been all over the place and at times hard for me to keep up with. I didn't know from the outset this thread would become so popular...

I would like to know more about your and Rocketman's work. What satellites have you worked on. --Dave