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The Greek word translated "give" is in the present tense. So they received etwrnal life then and not a some point in the future.

Ozos,ou know how to read but you refuse to believe the following words spoken by the Lord Jesus before the Cross: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand" (Jn.10:28). According to your false teaching no one was given...

OZOs says: "Because your brain is stuck in dung, you intentionally ignore the rest of God's word, and have no answer for the many verses that contradict your perverse manipulation of the words of Jesus." You say that I manipulated the words of the lord Jesus but you gave no evidence that I did...

OZOS wrote: "You fail to comprehend a promise to the sheep, who will receive eternal life. No one received eternal life until AFTER Jesus died on the cross for their sins, and was raised for their justification." Why must you perver the words of the Lord Jesus concerning his sheep. He did not...

The Lord Jesus said: ""My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand" (Jn.10:27-28). The Lord Jesus used thePresent tense, I give them eternal life. Buy OZOS denies the...

freeloader said:" No one actually receives eternal life until the second coming. Like Paul said, he had this hope. A hope is not current reality. It is a future event. And Paul describes that future event." Then why did the Lord Jesus use the "present tense'' when He said the following...

All you are doing is trying to prove that what the Lord Jesus said here is not true; The Lord Jesus said: ""My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand"...

Stop perverting the words of the Lord Jesus, you old fool!

So according to your view when the Lord commanded them to receive the Holy Spirit it was not possible for them to receive Him right then and there! You might have a point if the verb "receive" was in the future tense but it is not!

The Lord Jesus said: ""My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand" (Jn.10:27-28). Present tense, I give them eternal life. Buy OZOS denies the plain words of the...

marke wrote: "I believe the KJV is the most accurate translation of God's Word available today. I have studied the issues pertaining to the validity of various translations and my conclusion is based upon what it seems clear to me to be the most compelling reasoning." You might be right that...

nikolia 42, you said: "I see it just as though someone were with a group of people (use the analogy of a visitor at a household) and were the guest of honor. That guest has a limited time to stay but wants to send someone back to those remaining at the household. Before the guest leaves, he...

OZOs said: ", I admitted that I framed it improperly, and I NEVER implied that they were the same thing..' The way that you tied them together implied that you thought they were the same thing: You said: "don't want to get off topic, but when did these people, outside of the age (dispensation)...

OZOs said: "The Jews were justified by one holy spirit and the Gentiles were justified by the other holy spirit" - Jerry Shugart" I never said that. and you know it! You are so desperate to discredit me that you have reverted to making thing up! You say that you never sin but making up lies...

You set yourself up as a fool when you indicated that an age is the same thing as a dispensation: You said: "don't want to get off topic, but when did these people, outside of the age (dispensation) of grace, prophesy in His name, cast out demons in His name, and do many wonders in His name?" "...

Pur up or shut up! You are a big talker but that is all that you are--a big talker.

Nichola 42 said: "1. I have never read John 20:22 as though the apostles were given the Holy Spirit at that time. I have always read that as their being prepared to receive the Holy Spirit." then what meaning do you put on the word "receive" in this verse?: "And with that he breathed on them...

Nicolai 42 said: "I Cor 12:4 seems to be clear that there is no reason to think "Holy Spirit" and "the Holy Spirit" refer to different entities. It seems to me like a distinction without a difference. Then how do you explain the following facts: It is not possible that the following...

OZOS said: "Put up or shut up, you worthless turd." If you know when the present dispensation began then tell us when it began. Put up or shut up!

OZOs said: "Guess what, I'm not going to answer you," Of course you refuse to answer me because you do not know when the present dispensation of the God's grace began. "But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant" (1 Cor.14:38). If you don't know when it began then how can you speak of...